Dish Washer Soap

[Mey Marie]

I keep getting glutenated. could it be my Cascade dish washer detergent? I have racked my brain and it is all I can think of. Help!!

[CHARBEEGOOD]

Good luck with the process, it is a stinker. I have been working through all the "products" in my house starting with food, and progressing to personal hygiene. I haven't progressed to the dish washing liquid yet, I keep going over in my mind that it is completely rinsed off. (or I hope).

Keep us posted. Here is hoping you feel better soon.

[Tigercat17]

I keep getting glutenated. could it be my Cascade dish washer detergent? I have racked my brain and it is all I can think of. Help!!

I'm pretty sure it's safe. I did see some posts here about it. I've been using the same brand. And I also use dawn liquid.

Hang in there. I know it's hard. I've been on the diet for five weeks now & I still have trouble eating some things. I get the "pins & needles" feeling in my stomach if I eat anything with spices in it & I can't drink milk on an empty stomach. My stomach was pretty damaged by all the gluten I ate & I probably had this disease for a long time.

It just takes time to heal so be gentle with yourself. If you're not using one already, a food dairy might help to keep track of certain foods that are bothering you. You might have to just avoid them for a little while until your stomach heals.

I hope this helps!

[ang1e0251]

Are you sure you are not sensitive to another food?

[lovegrov]

Dishwasher detergent has always been safe. I don't think that's your problem.

richard

[Mey Marie]

Are you sure you are not sensitive to another food?

I hope I don't have any other food reactions. I can hardly handle this one at the moment. I am having D and a lot of back pain. I just assume that is gluten....

[Mey Marie]

Dishwasher detergent has always been safe. I don't think that's your problem.

richard

I can't think of anything else. I have gone through everything in my kitchen and My husband hates me for it. He has be a bit reluctant in the change in our house. But I keep getting sick and I know I must be getting it from my kitchen. I won't eat anywhere else these days. I am just to scared.

[Gemini]

I can't think of anything else. I have gone through everything in my kitchen and My husband hates me for it. He has be a bit reluctant in the change in our house. But I keep getting sick and I know I must be getting it from my kitchen. I won't eat anywhere else these days. I am just to scared.

It sounds like you have another intolerance, like dairy maybe, which is very common in newly diagnosed Celiacs. People often make the mistake that they must be ingesting gluten if their symptoms continue. It isn't that hard to banish gluten from a kitchen area, unless you have kids, so if you are fairly confident that you have cleaned the kitchen well, it probably isn't gluten.

You do not have to worry about soaps at all, unless you make a habit of not rinsing your hands or whatever the soap is used on. Ditto for anything else which is not food based, unless you ingest it. The only thing that matters is anything going on your lips, for obvious reasons.

You may want to try cutting out dairy for a while and see what happens. I cannot handle any more dairy than the drop I put in my tea or I experience the same symptoms as a gluten ingestion. No milk, no ice cream, etc. It really isn't bad to give up food that makes you sick and there are many alternatives which taste just as good. Having continual diarrhea is a show stopper and you won't heal well if you consume something else which makes you sick.

Hang in there, Lady....things will get better! Tell your husband to be more supportive, also. It makes all the difference in how you deal with this disease. The last thing you need right now is someone who makes your life more difficult than it already is! Right now, your needs come first...remember that!

[Mey Marie]

It sounds like you have another intolerance, like dairy maybe, which is very common in newly diagnosed Celiacs. People often make the mistake that they must be ingesting gluten if their symptoms continue. It isn't that hard to banish gluten from a kitchen area, unless you have kids, so if you are fairly confident that you have cleaned the kitchen well, it probably isn't gluten.

You do not have to worry about soaps at all, unless you make a habit of not rinsing your hands or whatever the soap is used on. Ditto for anything else which is not food based, unless you ingest it. The only thing that matters is anything going on your lips, for obvious reasons.

You may want to try cutting out dairy for a while and see what happens. I cannot handle any more dairy than the drop I put in my tea or I experience the same symptoms as a gluten ingestion. No milk, no ice cream, etc. It really isn't bad to give up food that makes you sick and there are many alternatives which taste just as good. Having continual diarrhea is a show stopper and you won't heal well if you consume something else which makes you sick.

Hang in there, Lady....things will get better! Tell your husband to be more supportive, also. It makes all the difference in how you deal with this disease. The last thing you need right now is someone who makes your life more difficult than it already is! Right now, your needs come first...remember that!

Thank you, I will try cutting out the dairy. I hope It works. It should be easy enough. I don't eat much dairy other then milk in my cereal. Oh, what do you do about butter?

[ang1e0251]

I second the advice about the dairy. I think you will see some relief there. Make sure there is no lactose in any pills you take.

[climbmtwhitney]

We use either Earth Balance organic buttery spread - or - Smart Balance LIGHT Omega buttery spread. Both are gluten and dairy (casein) free.

Also, FYI another biggie for a lot of folks is soy.

Best of luck!

[jerseyangel]

The Cascade is definitely safe, so my guess would be either you are getting traces of gluten somewhere or you have another food intolerance, which is not that unusual. As mentioned, dairy could be troublesome as can soy, corn, or legumes. You could keep a simple food log--that makes it easier to detect a pattern.

[MKat]

I hope I don't have any other food reactions. I can hardly handle this one at the moment. I am having D and a lot of back pain. I just assume that is gluten....

I am so right there with you!! I've been gluten free for 3 months ( I went gluten-free in the spring for 3 weeks and felt great, went back on gluten for 3 months to be tested...all tests came back negative). I was so sick during those 3 months w/diarrhea 10-15 x a day.

I've been doing pretty well until a week ago and I'm back to diarrhea about 4 times a day and that same wet gurgling in my lower stomach right before I need to go the bathroom. My diarrhea started last week afte eating gluten-free oatmeal, but I wouldn't think it would still be effecting me 1 week later??

I am scouring my house for hidden gluten sources!!! I'm making everyone crazy too! And, not having an official celiac diagnosis it's even harder to explain myself. Other intolerances freak me out as well. I just really keep thinking mine is a hidden source of gluten....I'm looking into the cat food that I read about - I often kiss my cat

I hate the mystery and to be honest, I'm quite angry right now and I'm having a hard time dealing with this.... I don't know what to do next??? Perhaps eliminate dairy....but does that mean caesin as well??

[Gemini]

I am so right there with you!! I've been gluten free for 3 months ( I went gluten-free in the spring for 3 weeks and felt great, went back on gluten for 3 months to be tested...all tests came back negative). I was so sick during those 3 months w/diarrhea 10-15 x a day.

I've been doing pretty well until a week ago and I'm back to diarrhea about 4 times a day and that same wet gurgling in my lower stomach right before I need to go the bathroom. My diarrhea started last week afte eating gluten-free oatmeal, but I wouldn't think it would still be effecting me 1 week later??

I am scouring my house for hidden gluten sources!!! I'm making everyone crazy too! And, not having an official celiac diagnosis it's even harder to explain myself. Other intolerances freak me out as well. I just really keep thinking mine is a hidden source of gluten....I'm looking into the cat food that I read about - I often kiss my cat

I hate the mystery and to be honest, I'm quite angry right now and I'm having a hard time dealing with this.... I don't know what to do next??? Perhaps eliminate dairy....but does that mean caesin as well??

Casein is the protein in milk and lactose is the sugar. Celiacs/GS people can have a problem with either one or both. If you cut out dairy by itself, you will find out soon enough if dairy, in general, is causing your symptoms. It's important to cut out only one food group at a time so you can nail down

what the problem is, if there is one.

I'm sure it can be daunting to some to have to face the prospect that they may have more than one

food intolerance. However, with dairy, that can change as you heal. Your stomach may be able to handle the dairy after a while, if that is what the cause is. If you go too far convincing yourself that it's a source of contamination from gluten, you'll never get better. As far as being glutened from a cat, I always find that prospect way, way down on the reality scale. Not all will agree but remember, you have to INGEST gluten in order for a reaction to occur. That means you would have to ingest some food from her mouth area after she has eaten it. Pretty gross thought and I just think it highly unlikely.

I have pets myself and their dry food is naturally gluten-free, without my trying for it to be. Animals do not need grains, they have protein needs and most of the really high end, good foods are grain free anyway. My cat does eat some canned food and I have no idea if it is gluten-free or not. I do not eat cat food or put my hands in my mouth, unless I have washed them first. Never happens. For all the pets I do have, my blood work is fine, showing no ingestion of gluten so what I am doing is sufficient. You have to really think about what your actions are and be realistic about the possibility of being glutened from a pet. If you have dry food which is wheat based, I wouldn't inhale near it if you pour it into another container because there is dust residue which will kick up. Inhalation is a possible, real issue...ask anyone who works in a bakery and inhales small amounts of flour dust. That is more likely to be a source for you as opposed to kissing your cat. I am not trying to offend anyone but trying to help and be realistic about it. It has worked well for me.

If anyone does well initially on the gluten-free diet and then backslides without knowingly cheating and is confident they haven't changed anything which might cause CC, then you have to look at other food issues. I did and found dairy to be off limits for me.....at least I can tolerate a small amount in tea and coffee but that's all. Only then did I become completely better and you can too!

[Mey Marie]

I am so right there with you!! I've been gluten free for 3 months ( I went gluten-free in the spring for 3 weeks and felt great, went back on gluten for 3 months to be tested...all tests came back negative). I was so sick during those 3 months w/diarrhea 10-15 x a day.

I've been doing pretty well until a week ago and I'm back to diarrhea about 4 times a day and that same wet gurgling in my lower stomach right before I need to go the bathroom. My diarrhea started last week afte eating gluten-free oatmeal, but I wouldn't think it would still be effecting me 1 week later??

I am scouring my house for hidden gluten sources!!! I'm making everyone crazy too! And, not having an official celiac diagnosis it's even harder to explain myself. Other intolerances freak me out as well. I just really keep thinking mine is a hidden source of gluten....I'm looking into the cat food that I read about - I often kiss my cat

I hate the mystery and to be honest, I'm quite angry right now and I'm having a hard time dealing with this.... I don't know what to do next??? Perhaps eliminate dairy....but does that mean caesin as well??

As far as the oatmeal, something like 20% of Celiacs are unable to eat even gluten free oatmeal because it has a proteen that has a make up to close to gluten. I have that problem!

[RollingAlong]

I keep getting glutenated. could it be my Cascade dish washer detergent? I have racked my brain and it is all I can think of. Help!!

do you use a dishwasher rinsing agent?

Eliminating dairy, even for just 6 months, can really help from everything I have read. Clarified butter or ghee is another option for butter.

Good luck.

[MKat]

do you use a dishwasher rinsing agent?

Eliminating dairy, even for just 6 months, can really help from everything I have read. Clarified butter or ghee is another option for butter.

Good luck.

When you say eliminate dairy is that just the obvious cheese, milk, chocolate , yogurt, icecreams or is it everything w/caesin as well???

[sussarliv]

When you say eliminate dairy is that just the obvious cheese, milk, chocolate , yogurt, icecreams or is it everything w/caesin as well???

When we had to go dairy free from my DD12 - it was everything. Whey, Caesin and all the above that you mentioned.

Good luck!

Susan

[Glamour]

Cascade may be gluten free, but it has very harsh chemicals in it. It makes me sick as a dog, as does all chlorine bleach type products. The steam and hot water from the dishwashing process puts this chemical all over your house.

I would get a safer cleaner without bleach type chemicals. Try using safer cleaners such as baking soda and vinegar. Make sure you have plenty of fresh air when cleaning. I open a window when using the dishwasher or washer - No fabric softner.

[Dada2hapas]

Cascade may be gluten free, but it has very harsh chemicals in it. It makes me sick as a dog, as does all chlorine bleach type products. The steam and hot water from the dishwashing process puts this chemical all over your house.

I would get a safer cleaner without bleach type chemicals. Try using safer cleaners such as baking soda and vinegar. Make sure you have plenty of fresh air when cleaning. I open a window when using the dishwasher or washer - No fabric softner.

If you mix baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and vinegar (acetic acid), they neutralize each other, the end products being carbon dioxide gas (which bubbles out of solution) and sodium acetate, which is ineffective for the purpose of cleaning.

[Glamour]

If you mix baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and vinegar (acetic acid), they neutralize each other, the end products being carbon dioxide gas (which bubbles out of solution) and sodium acetate, which is ineffective for the purpose of cleaning.

There is plenty of info on the Internet about using Vinegar, baking soda, lemon juice, peroxide, and other safer cleaners. I was not saying to use vinegar and baking soda together . It does make a decent drain cleaner together, as well as scrub.

There are safer green cleaners at Whole Foods, Trader Joes and even the Super Markets.

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[Dada2hapas]

Thanks for clarifying Glamour. You have a good point.

As a scrub, it's better not to mix vinegar with baking soda, which is amphoteric. Mix baking soda (or even washing soda) with liquid soap to make a paste. Works great!

[purple]

Cascade may be gluten free, but it has very harsh chemicals in it. It makes me sick as a dog, as does all chlorine bleach type products. The steam and hot water from the dishwashing process puts this chemical all over your house.

I would get a safer cleaner without bleach type chemicals. Try using safer cleaners such as baking soda and vinegar. Make sure you have plenty of fresh air when cleaning. I open a window when using the dishwasher or washer - No fabric softner.

You can use white vinegar as fabric softener. My dh can't have smelly chemical softeners so I use vinegar. A neighbor is allergic to chlorine.

[luvthelake21]

"you have to INGEST gluten in order for a reaction to occur" Can't you absorb gluten thru your skin?

[Dada2hapas]

"you have to INGEST gluten in order for a reaction to occur" Can't you absorb gluten thru your skin?

The proteins that comprise gluten are much too large to pass thru skin.