Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Reaction Relevance To Damage?

Guest Leidenschaft

By Guest Leidenschaft
in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease

Recommended Posts

Guest Leidenschaft
Guest Leidenschaft
Posted

Hi, I posed this question in another post that's been on the board for awhile, however I think it got buried! ;)

I am a very fortunate Celiac I think, I don't have very strong reactions when I get "glutinated". On average if I get contaminated I will be on the toilet first thing in the AM for a bought of diarrhea. If I've got into something more, I may make two or three trips in the same day. Generally I think that is about it, although the more reading I do in this forum, the more I suspect that I may be having other minor symptoms that I've previously attributed to other things, like PMS and stress! :blink:

My question is.... is there any relation to the severity of reaction to the severity of damage in the intestine? Would a person who has a severe reaction have more damage to the intestine than one that has a mild one? Or does it work this way?

I look forward to hearing from all you experts! :D

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
Posted

No relevance that I know of. I was so SEVERELY damaged I was dying yet I have no or very little reaction to gluten, or at least to small mistakes.

richard

KaitiUSA Enthusiast
KaitiUSA
Posted

Yeah I agree..some people don't have symtoms but it doesn't mean you don't have damage. It's just the way bodies react..they all react differently.

Guest Leidenschaft
Guest Leidenschaft
Posted

<_< That's pretty much what I figured! Darn! :( Oh well, I am gluten-free as completely as one can be! I just worry that some hidden sources will continue to do the damage due to the fact that I don't know when I'm being "glutinated"! I tend to go with my gut so to speak :P if I don't have any noticeable reaction to something that appears gluten-free, then I trust it is. I haven't resorted to some of the strict measures I've read about such as phoning the manufacturer etc. If it's something I would use ALOT then I would, such as toothpaste etc. FYI, I use Sensodyne, and although the company did the standard "cover our butts" disclaimer, I have been using it without reaction for over a year.

Thanks for the input!

tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
Posted

Lol! I've reacted to Sensodyne. That wasn't a fun surprise! (I'm not that sensitive, but apparently a bit more than you. Meh... We're all different! :-) )

Guest Leidenschaft
Guest Leidenschaft
Posted

So in fact, the Sensodyne could be doing me damage and I'm not getting a reaction?? :blink:

Maybe I just spit better than you? :lol:

I suppose it could also be a contaminant in the batch you had?

Who's to know??? :(

SharonF Contributor
SharonF
Posted

I thought I was the same, just a few trips to the bathroom after a gluten experience, no big deal.

Then I realized that I was also feeling incredibly TIRED, and it was due to the gluten!

It's so nice to have energy again, and to not have to run to the bathroom 3/4 times a day, that I don't ever lapse.

I have called few manufacturers, but I have become familiar with what products are gluten free, and I always make sure to read labels.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. NanceK
      - NanceK replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      9

      My only proof

      Oh wow! Thanks for this information! I’m going to try the Benfotiamine again and will also add a B-complex to my supplements. Presently, I just take sublingual B12 (methylcobalomin). Is supplementation for celiacs always necessary even though you remain gluten-free and you’re healing as shown on endoscopy? I also take D3, mag glycinate, and try to get cal...
    2. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to Hmart's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      13

      Is this celiac?

      @Hmart, The reason why your intestinal damage was so severe, yet your tTg IgA was so minimal can be due to cutting back on gluten (and food in general) due to worsening symptoms. The tTg IgA antibodies are made in the intestines. While three grams of gluten per day for several weeks are enough to cause gastrointestinal symptoms, ten grams of gluten...
    3. Trish G
      - Trish G replied to Trish G's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      10

      Fiber Supplement

      Thanks, that's a great addition that I hadn't thought of.
    4. trents
      - trents replied to Hmart's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      13

      Is this celiac?

      Other diseases, medical conditions, medications and even (for some people) some non-gluten foods can cause villous atrophy. There is also something called refractory celiac disease but it is pretty uncommon.
    5. trents
      - trents replied to kpf's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      15

      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      knitty kitty asks a very relevant question. So many people make the mistake of experimenting with the gluten free diet or even a reduced gluten diet soon before getting formally tested.
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,352
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Teagan
    Newest Member
    Teagan
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • NanceK
      My only proof

      By NanceK · Posted

      Oh wow! Thanks for this information! I’m going to try the Benfotiamine again and will also add a B-complex to my supplements. Presently, I just take sublingual B12 (methylcobalomin). Is supplementation for celiacs always necessary even though you remain gluten-free and you’re healing as shown on endoscopy? I also take D3, mag glycinate, and try to get calcium through diet. I am trying to bump up my energy level because I don’t sleep very well and feel fatigued quite often. I’m now hopeful that adding the Benfotiamine and B-complex will help. I really appreciate your explanation and advice! Thanks again Knitty Kitty!
    • knitty kitty
      Is this celiac?

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @Hmart, The reason why your intestinal damage was so severe, yet your tTg IgA was so minimal can be due to cutting back on gluten (and food in general) due to worsening symptoms.  The tTg IgA antibodies are made in the intestines.  While three grams of gluten per day for several weeks are enough to cause gastrointestinal symptoms, ten grams of gluten per day for for several weeks are required to provoke sufficient antibody production so that the antibodies move out of the intestines and into the blood stream where they can be measured in blood tests.  Since you reduced your gluten consumption before testing, the antibody production went down and did not leave the intestines, hence lower than expected tTg IgA.   Still having abdominal pain and other symptoms this far out is indicative of nutritional deficiencies.  With such a severely damaged small intestine, you are not absorbing sufficient nutrients, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1, so your body us burning stored fat and even breaking down muscle to fuel your body.   Yes, it is a very good idea to supplement with vitamins and minerals during healing.  The eight essential B vitamins are water soluble and easily lost with diarrhea.  The B vitamins all work together interconnectedly, and should be supplemented together.  Taking vitamin supplements provides your body with greater opportunity to absorb them.  Thiamine and the other B vitamins cannot be stored for long, so they must be replenished every day.  Thiamine tends to become depleted first which leads to Gastrointestinal Beriberi, a condition that doctors frequently fail to recognize.  Symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi are abdominal pain and nausea, but neuropathy can also occur, as well as body and joint pain, headaches and more.  Heart rhythm disruptions including tachycardia are classic symptoms of thiamine deficiency.  Heart attack patients are routinely administered thiamine now.   Blood tests for vitamins are notoriously inaccurate.  You can have "normal" blood levels, while tissues and organs are depleted.  Such is the case with Gastrointestinal Beriberi, a thiamine deficiency in the digestive tract.  Eating a diet high in carbohydrates, like rice, starches, and sugar, can further deplete thiamine.  The more carbohydrates one eats, the more thiamine is required per calorie to turn carbs into energy.  Burning stored fats require less thiamine, so in times of thiamine shortage, the body burns fat and muscles instead.  Muscle wasting is a classic symptoms of thiamine deficiency.  A high carbohydrate diet may also promote SIBO and/or Candida infection which can also add to symptoms.  Thiamine is required to keep SIBO and Candida in check.   Thiamine works with Pyridoxine B 6, so if Thiamine is low and can't interact with Pyridoxine, the unused B 6 accumulates and shows up as high.   Look into the Autoimmune Protocol diet.  Dr. Sarah Ballantyne is a Celiac herself.  Her book "The Paleo Approach" has been most helpful to me.  Following the AIP diet made a huge improvement in my symptoms.  Between the AIP diet and correcting nutritional deficiencies, I felt much better after a long struggle with not feeling well.   Do talk to your doctor about Gastrointestinal Beriberi.  Share the article linked below. Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/ Keep us posted on your progress!
    • Trish G
      Fiber Supplement

      By Trish G · Posted

      Thanks, that's a great addition that I hadn't thought of. 
    • trents
      Is this celiac?

      By trents · Posted

      Other diseases, medical conditions, medications and even (for some people) some non-gluten foods can cause villous atrophy. There is also something called refractory celiac disease but it is pretty uncommon.
    • trents
      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      By trents · Posted

      knitty kitty asks a very relevant question. So many people make the mistake of experimenting with the gluten free diet or even a reduced gluten diet soon before getting formally tested.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.