Get email alerts Get Celiac.com E-mail Alerts  




Celiac.com Sponsor:
Celiac.com Sponsor:




Ads by Google:






   Get email alerts  Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts

Confused -very Long Sorry!
0

5 posts in this topic

I am Irish and living in Manila, Philippines. After years of IBS, I developed chronic diarrhea on a trip to Ireland in October. After a few months I eventually conceded that this wasn't normal and visted a GI specialist here in Manila. I mentioned my apparent intolerance to wheat and dairy and that my symptoms seemed to have been triggered by eating lots of bread, spelt and other yummy gluten-laden foods in Ireland. She agreed that I might have Coeliac Disease but that it was necessary to eliminate other intestinal disease which she did with a colonsocopy, small intestine series (with barium) and a CT scan. THe blood tests for celiac disease are not available here so I pushed for an endoscopy which indicated celiac disease, although it was not conclusive. The doctor was happy that the diarrhea (which had worsened to the stage of making me housebound, not to mention thin and weak) was a symptom of celiac disease and told me to go on a gluten-free diet and left it at that. I took antibiotics for giardia for 7 days which made feel even more wretched, just in case, but that didn't seem to help. After a few gluten-free weeks the diarrhea subsided to be replced by constipation and bloating and then what I would consider very rare for me - normal stool Yippee! I was still exhausted, probably due to nutritional deficiencies, but happy that things were improving. Started gluten-free Dec 23.

On Feb 7, went to a black-tie ball and thought, 'what the hell I'll eat everything'. gluten-free is unheard of here so there was no point in even attempting to explain what I could eat. Within 2 hours if ingesting cheesey potatoes au gratin I was in the toilet - very sobering. It took 6 days for diarrhea to subside but it did, much to my relief and I felt almost 'normal'again although still exhausted. Finally went to Singapore, so had to eat out, on Feb 18 - avoided gluten as far as I know but ate ice cream. The next morning after gluten-free breakfast, diarrhea literally exploded into action and hasn't really improved since. Have been gluten-free again 12 days. Was inadvertently taking dairy from gluten-free bread mix but have not had dairy in 3 days. I'm really wondering if there is something else wrong with me or is to be expected that it would take this long for symptoms to subside. My GI doctor just tells me how dry my skin and hair are, and how thin I am without offering any real, constructive support. Am considering being admitted to hospital for rehydration and withdrawing all foods, to re-introduce them after a few days but don't really want to be seperated from my kids (older daughter is 3 tomorrow).

Does it sound like celiac disease to have a recurrence to this extent after accidental ingestion of gluten or dairy, and if so how long can I expect diarrhea to last?

All insights welcome as I'm very isolated (and now housebound again) over here!

Jo

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ads by Google:
Does it sound like celiac disease to have a recurrence to this extent after accidental ingestion of gluten or dairy, and if so how long can I expect diarrhea to last?

Hi Jojes,

Yes, it does sound like celiac disease to have your reaction be that bad. It also sounds like you are intolerant to casein (a milk protein) that is found in all dairy products and it actually quite common in Celiacs. See casein and gluten have a very similar molecular structure and for some Celiacs their body sees them as the same, and you will have a bad reaction to either. And the reaction and subsequent symptoms can last up to two weeks. Since you were accidently getting dairy, up until three days ago, it may take a bit longer to get better from the last gluten accident. I assume, since you live in the Philippines, that your diet consists mainly of rice, fish, chicken and veggies and fruit. Am I right? My husband is from the Philippines and even after being in the US for 20 years this is still his primary diet. Quite suitable for being gluten free, except for the sauces. He loves sauces on everything.

You said you are in Manila, and I hope that you are able to get gluten free products more easily than if you were in one of the more remote locations. I do hope that you are able to stay gluten free, and not get contaminated too often.

How are your children? Mine are all mildly to moderately symptomatic, and I am getting them tested now. Celiac is genetic, and although you probably couldn't get them tested right now, you might want to put them on the gluten-free diet if they start showing problems. And not all Celiacs will have the classic symptoms of diarrhea and weight loss. My children tend to have very weak dental enamel, frequent stomachaches, occasional diarrhea, and or constipation, one has migraine like headaches (he's 7), and my daughter (she's 4) vomits occasionally for no appearant reason. Yet they all come back with inconclusive blood tests and no clear answer to if they have celiac disease or not. So I am having them stool and gene tested. I would like to know for sure.

Well, I tend to ramble late at night, so I'm off to bed. Welcome to this site. it's great here.

God bless,

Mariann :)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mariann

I am so grateful for your reply to my message; it sounds like I just have try keep hydrated while my system rebalances itself. Unfortunately my diet is very Western, although I haven't been a big bread or pasta eater for years, pre-diagnosis I loved oatmeal and had a daily bagel. I'm looking into ordering gluten-free foods from Australia; breakfast cereal and snacks are the things I miss most. I am planning on having my daughters (3 & 17 months) tested when we go to Ireland this summer. So far I haven't noticed any symptoms other than constipation in the older one - hopefully that's down to her reluctance to eat anything resembling a fruit or veg! I understand your concern over your children- hopefully their Filipino genes will dominate on this issue. Gosh - I can't wait to lose this foggy brain and get some energy back!

Thank you so much again. I'm very grateful for your support.

Jo

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi,

I am also newly diagnosed and wanted to tell you that I also

get diarrhea after I eat ice cream, milk, cheese. I have given up

on dairy until my villi get healed. I also noticed that dairy causes me to have "brain fog" big time. To counteract the dehydration I usually

get some bananas and Gatorade, it might save you from a trip to the hospital,

at least it is worth a try.Good luck!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Judy

How long does the diarrhea last after having dairy? A doctor I spoke to today (my husband in desperation got in touch with a different GI doc) was of the opinion that any gut reaction to dairy should be gone by 4 days. Is this because he doesn't understand celiac disease, do you think? During my last gluten accident recovery period, I did eat cheese for the first 3 days before I copped on :rolleyes: , and diarrhea disappeared after another 3 days. Maybe I wasn't totally recovered (only a week later)when I had the gluten/ice cream incident; perhaps that explains current dire strait. Will stick it out at home with the gatorade and see how I feel tomorrow.

Thank you for your input. It really is great to get support and not feel like I'm going out of my mind!

Jo

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
0

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      103,647
    • Total Posts
      918,460
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Positive Biopsy, Negative Blood Tests
      What?  Be sure that next endoscopy tests you for lymphoma (cancer) as well!   Seriously.  You need to do some research as your knowledge of celiac disease is lacking.  Did you fail the entire celiac panel?  Or did your doctor/insurance save cash and just order the very good (but does not catch all celiacs) TTG IgA?  You have a family history, a positive biopsy, what more do you need?  You do realize that this is not about just giving up gluten, don't you?  We just had a member join this year who was told years ago that her tests were "inconclusive" and that she now has suffered with lymphoma (cancer)? Ugh!   Endoscopy in 10 years?  Who would even wait 10 years?  This isn't colon cancer and polyps!   Are you talking about a colonoscopy?  Are you even sure you had an endoscopy?   Be sure you have your bones checked too.....and forget the breath.  You might not have any teeth and implants will be out since your bones will be compromised. Sorry, if I come on strong, but when I was diagnosed I had no tummy issues.  A few months later, my bones began breaking.  I was undiagnosed for a long time because of mis-informed doctors.  At least it was not stupidity on my part.   So, I urge you to research this disease more!  Hopefully you'll ward on another autoimmune disorder by remaining gluten free.  Find what celiac blood tests were actually taken!  Even if you do not think you have celiac disease, something has caused villi damage -- like a parasite, milk, or something......even more sinister! Good luck!  
    • Really, Really Foul Breath Post-glutening?
      In addition to eating gluten-free, I attribute the following to knocking out my bad breath once and for all: 1. SmartMouth Activated Mouthwash (this is what really did it for me!) 2. Flonase Nasal Spray 3. Dr. Tung's Tongue Scraper 4. The obviously brushing and flossing twice daily (goes without saying).    
    • Positive Biopsy, Negative Blood Tests
      I went in for an endoscopy to find out if something from my stomach/intestine was causing my bad breath.  A biopsy during that procedure revealed that I had Celiac.  I thought it was strange since I ate pizza, pasta, and other bread/gluten items almost every day without issue, so I decided to confirm the biopsy result with a blood test. I took the blood test twice (once on a high- and once on a low-gluten diet) and it came back negative both times.  I just assumed someone at the earlier biopsy lab must have messed up my analysis or accidently mistaken someone else's biopsy for mine, but after reading this thread it seems like my initial biopsy might have been correct all along. My doctor suggested doing another endoscopy, but I didn't want to foot the bill for that.  Also, my older brother has Celiac which was confirmed by both a biopsy and blood test. Eating less gluten did seem to help a little with my bad breath, but SmartMouth Activated Mouthwash along with Flonase nasal spray and a Dr. Tung's tongue scrapper really did the trick to solve the bad breath issue. I'm just assuming I have Celiac and eating "gluten conscious" until my next endoscopy in about 10 years. If that biopsy comes back positive again, then I'll be strictly gluten-free.  I'm just glad I don't have many symptoms.      
    • Anxiously waiting
      You might ask your doctor if they have a standby/wait list Kal.  Some do that and then they can fit in people if there are cancellations or no-shows.
    • Question on posting
      So we have a rule here against self promotion, however please send me the link and I will have a look at it.
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Entries

  • Recent Status Updates

    • celiac sharon  »  cyclinglady

      Hello cycling lady, have you noticed my picture is showing up as you?  Have no idea why but it's rather disconcerting to see my picture and your words 😉  Do you know how to fix it?  You seem to have far more experience with this board than I do
      · 1 reply
    • Larry Gessner  »  cyclinglady

      Hi There, I don't know if there is a place for videos in the forum. I just watched "The Truth About Gluten" I think it is a good video. I would like to share it somewhere but don't know where it should go. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
      Here is the link if you have never watched it.
      https://youtu.be/IU6jVEwpjnE Thank You,
      Larry
      · 2 replies
    • ChiaChick  »  Peaceflower

      Hi Peaceflower, Just wanted to say thank you for the chat.
      · 0 replies
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    There are no registered users currently online

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      60,741
    • Most Online
      1,763

    Newest Member
    Roemill
    Joined