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Okay so i researched mono and dyclycerides and polysorbate 80, and its was on the gluten safe list. It was said that it normally coms from corn and other gluten safe products, but i ate icecream today and reacted to it, idk if i reacted because it contains dairy or if it actually do have gluten.

Then i came across to this website that those ingredients do contain gluten, so im kinda confused.

Heres the link Open Original Shared Link


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Mono & Diglycerides

Monoglycerides and diglycerides are different kinds of fat made from vegetables and soybeans. (Most of the fat we consume falls into the triglyceride category.) These ingredients keep the ice cream from separating once mixed. Since only a tiny amount is used, monoglycerides and diglycerides do not contribute any measurable fat calories.

 

Polysorbate 80

Polysorbate 80 is made from soybeans and corn and helps in the whipping and freezing of the ice cream.

 

 

None contain gluten. I believe even if it is a carrier ingredient if it's from wheat in the US it must say so on the label since Wheat is oneo f the top 8 allegens required by law to be on food labels.

 

She metioned her son reacts to Polysorbate 80 that doesn't mean that it contians gluten it could be a cross reactive reaction and not a gluten one. There are some foods that some Celiacs react to that do not contain gluten but they react the same as they would to gluten.  Open Original Shared Link

 

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Mono & Diglycerides

Monoglycerides and diglycerides are different kinds of fat made from vegetables and soybeans. (Most of the fat we consume falls into the triglyceride category.) These ingredients keep the ice cream from separating once mixed. Since only a tiny amount is used, monoglycerides and diglycerides do not contribute any measurable fat calories.

Polysorbate 80

Polysorbate 80 is made from soybeans and corn and helps in the whipping and freezing of the ice cream.

None contain gluten. I believe even if it is a carrier ingredient if it's from wheat in the US it must say so on the label since Wheat is oneo f the top 8 allegens required by law to be on food labels.

She metioned her son reacts to Polysorbate 80 that doesn't mean that it contians gluten it could be a cross reactive reaction and not a gluten one. There are some foods that some Celiacs react to that do not contain gluten but they react the same as they would to gluten. Open Original Shared Link

There is no scientific evidence for cross reactive foods in Celiac Disease. It is possible you get similar symptoms. That doesn't mean it is causing your body to produce antibodies. Your link is just some guy who thinks he knows a lot about Celiac. Not sure he has any real scientific basis.

Food poisoning, lactose intolerance and stomach virus have some of the same symptoms, too. Doesn't mean we are producing antibodies

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Veghead1234 Apprentice

I have Turkey Hill ice cream in my freezer right now, and when I started reading your post I thought I'd have to get rid of it! But the Turkey Hill website itself says those ingredients aren't from wheat, and doesn't it have to be disclosed on the label if the are? I don't particularly like buying food with those types of ingredients anyway, but the "pure" ice cream with ingredients lists that read like a recipe are just so expensive!

defeatwheat Rookie

     I had a major birthday a couple weeks ago. After not having had soy ice cream in quite some time and not remembering why I requested ice cream with gluten free cones. I hadn't had a cone in over eight years so I was in heaven and ate 6 of the 8 servings in the container during the day. I woke up not feeling so well and knew something amiss. I'll leave out the details but after reading the label and seeing how much of the daily fiber was in each serving I think about 12% and times that out by the six servings....... I then knew it was the fiber not anything else I had eaten. Now two weeks and three days later I hope to be on the better side of this. Taking Immodium AD after set things the other way and has made a tough go of it. Best of luck to you. If anyone has a magic formula for resetting the stomach please advise. (If I had been more moderate in what I ate, I think I would have been fine.)

Herreralovv Rookie

At first i thought it was the diary, but today i ate cereals with milk, and i had no reaction. Idk wat it could be, maybe my intestines are not yet capable to digest processed foods. The brand of icecream i had was PET icecream. Well all i know is that i wont try that ice cream anymore.. Ive checked on the internet that some breyers icecream are gluten free. So next time ill just get those.

Herreralovv Rookie

I had a major birthday a couple weeks ago. After not having had soy ice cream in quite some time and not remembering why I requested ice cream with gluten free cones. I hadn't had a cone in over eight years so I was in heaven and ate 6 of the 8 servings in the container during the day. I woke up not feeling so well and knew something amiss. I'll leave out the details but after reading the label and seeing how much of the daily fiber was in each serving I think about 12% and times that out by the six servings....... I then knew it was the fiber not anything else I had eaten. Now two weeks and three days later I hope to be on the better side of this. Taking Immodium AD after set things the other way and has made a tough go of it. Best of luck to you. If anyone has a magic formula for resetting the stomach please advise. (If I had been more moderate in what I ate, I think I would have been fine.)

My symptoms was extreme fatigue and bloating, that i just had to take a nap. But im them type on celiacs that get constipated when glutened. And idont think fiber is my problem.


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