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Issues with Water ice


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Has anyone experienced gluten symptoms from water ice? My son has had two instances where he had Rita's and Kona ice and then had a gluten reaction afterward. Is there some connection with sugar or something? Does anyone know why these gluten free foods trigger a reaction? We eliminated chocolate from his diet because the same thing would happen with that. But this is just sugar water essentially. Could it be from preparation? I didn't think Kona had anything gluten at all. Rita's I could see having cross contamination. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!


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knitty kitty Grand Master

@GlutenbusterMama,

Let's keep in mind that the digestive tract has a limited vocabulary.  Not everything is caused by gluten. 

Yes, there's a connection between a diet high in sugar and insufficient Thiamine Vitamin B 1.  Thiamine is needed to burn sugar for energy.  If there is not enough thiamine to process sugar and turn it into energy, lactic acidosis may develop with symptoms of nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, muscle cramps, and weakness.  It's usually temporary, but can become life threatening.  

Another concern is the ingredients of both those ices contain Propylene Glycol, which while generally recognized as safe, there are some reports of this making people sick.  

And, unfortunately, propylene glycol is also used in some chocolate now....

Propylene Glycol breaks down into lactic acid.  Lactic acidosis can result.  Again, Thiamine is needed to clear lactic acid. 

Malabsorption caused by damage to the small intestine results in malnutrition, vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  It's important to eat a nutritionally dense diet.  Supplementing with vitamins and minerals is beneficial in healing and in growth of young Celiacs.  Talk to your doctor and nutritionist about selecting nutritious snacks and meals.

Related information....

Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8533683/

And...

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/sugar-intake-and-thiamine/

Hope this helps!

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3 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

@GlutenbusterMama,

Let's keep in mind that the digestive tract has a limited vocabulary.  Not everything is caused by gluten. 

Yes, there's a connection between a diet high in sugar and insufficient Thiamine Vitamin B 1.  Thiamine is needed to burn sugar for energy.  If there is not enough thiamine to process sugar and turn it into energy, lactic acidosis may develop with symptoms of nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, muscle cramps, and weakness.  It's usually temporary, but can become life threatening.  

Another concern is the ingredients of both those ices contain Propylene Glycol, which while generally recognized as safe, there are some reports of this making people sick.  

And, unfortunately, propylene glycol is also used in some chocolate now....

Propylene Glycol breaks down into lactic acid.  Lactic acidosis can result.  Again, Thiamine is needed to clear lactic acid. 

Malabsorption caused by damage to the small intestine results in malnutrition, vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  It's important to eat a nutritionally dense diet.  Supplementing with vitamins and minerals is beneficial in healing and in growth of young Celiacs.  Talk to your doctor and nutritionist about selecting nutritious snacks and meals.

Related information....

Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8533683/

And...

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/sugar-intake-and-thiamine/

Hope this helps!

That is extremely helpful and I really appreciate the info! I couldn't find any info on the web about this before posting. That even answers why he cannot handle chocolate! Thank you!!

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