Fourty Something Women

[happygirl 7]

Susan, so sorry about the painting! My heart dropped when I was reading your post. Let us know what happens. Bad, bad dingos.

[2kids4me 2]

If I have been gluten-free for 2 1/2 years, what numbers should my anti-glidian (sp) numbers be? They retested because my neuro problems are kind of getting worse and I am wondering if I have been lax in the gluten-free

I believe that the results would be negative for antigliadin after gluten-free for that long.

B12 deficiency is common in older persons and those with autoimmune disorders of any kind. You get neuropathy from low B12, also can be klutzy, and very tired

[Jestgar 716]

Other things can cause the anti-gliadin to be high, that's why they no longer recommend it as one of the tests. If they do the whole panel, I think that the numbers should be negative, or very very low - but keep in mind that some completely normal people can have antibodies that are a little bit high.

[mouse 0]

They are redoing the whole panel as the office staff did not know how to take just the one test out for the lab orders.

My B12 is fine. I get checked every 3 months for that, D and all the other vitamins.

When I got diagnosed with gluten ataxia, I was told that staying gluten free would prevent it from getting any worse. Or that is what I thought the doctor said LOL. The problem is that I am having a lot of brain type problems and that is why the retesting. Maybe, I think I am totally gluten-free, but I might have become lax and am getting some still in my body. Hopefully the test will be negative. But, my question was what the numbers should be if I have been gluten-free for 2 1/2 years? I think over 10 means you have Celiac, but if no gluten is SUPPOSE to be getting into your body, would the number be 0?

[Green12 2]

Other things can cause the anti-gliadin to be high, that's why they no longer recommend it as one of the tests. If they do the whole panel, I think that the numbers should be negative, or very very low - but keep in mind that some completely normal people can have antibodies that are a little bit high.

Can the anit-gliadin numbers be high from eating other gliadin containing grains? I'm not an expert on any of this but I know for me I react to other grains in a lot of the gluten-free foods, like amaranth, in the same way I do wheat. Just a thought.

Hang in there Armetta

[Jestgar 716]

I don't know the specifics of gluten antibodies, but antibodies in general can cross react. So some similar protein might cause a small rise in your antigliadin antibodies, or your particular antibody spectrum might have something that causes the ELISA to give a slight false positive. So when I do an ELISA, I count everything that is less than my lowest standard, but a little bit above background as a negative result. This doesn't mean I call it 0, it's just below the level of detection. (Actually I usually give it a number because 0s are hard to use in calculations).

So Miss Mouse, Your numbers probably won't be 0, but if your lab tells you that anything less than 10 is negative, and you have a 9, assume that means it's negative. But for your own peace of mind you could do a run through your kitchen and double check everything. At least you'd feel proactive and I think staying in control of your life always feels good.

Hang in there, "Mom".

[DingoGirl 12]

ARmetta - I don't know about the numbers, but just hope for good news for you...and it sounds just a little like what Lynne goes through....hey, where has she been? makes me worry she's not feeling well at all.....

No dingos were harmed last night.....Sandy - love your crazy stories! I, too am wondering if skunk smell came out of dress! what a debacle -

Annie seems to always feel fabulous - - she did have giardia for a while, but never lets anything get her down. I've had her 3.5 years, she has not lagged a day in her perky little life, and has not failed to lift my spirits in her joy and devotion to me (she's like a therapy dog, senses everything and never leaves my side).....it's like sunshine resides within this dog. Even while sick, she would have the energy to trample a painting....

Anywho thanks all for giving me hugs for my whining over painting.....I am just grieving its damage and cursing my stupidity! but am happy in knowing that I think I want to paint again.....no specimens at this time but something will show itself soon, somewhere....maybe I'll get back into the very bright, Neo-Fauve oils again.......

Let's see...on Gray's Anatomy - - WHICH IS MAKING ME SO FRUSTRATED AND UPSET I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO.......going to write a letter - - I can't take it - - -I can't take it - - - but Izzy got a check for 8.7 million dollars from Denny's dad....... What will she do with that money - - I think something crazy and stupid that will make us mad......

[2kids4me 2]

I, too am wondering if skunk smell came out of dress! what a debacle -

Alas I will never know - I worked at an emergency clinic then...the call came in at 8pm on a Friday (skunks come out in early evening). The wedding was the next day.... at my end I picked up the phone and all I could hear was loud voices yellling - GET HIM OUT! Then someone explained what happened. I told them to open windows, air out the dress and short of that - there is nothing they could do. No all night drycleaners around

I felt bad for the bride - can you imagine - even with airing it out, there would be faint odour that would have people asking "What's that smell?"...

I have all sorts of stories that make me chuckle at the trouble pets get themselves into.

One male dog learned that at minus 30, you should not pee against a chain link fence - -yes he got too close and his privates got stuck to the metal - he spent 2 days in clinic, catheterized, on anti inflammatories and pain control.

Another dog came in with fairly bad concussion. We think owner is just upset when he says - "she ran into a car". So I say "how long ago was she hit, did the wheel go over her at all?".... Owner pauses, then looks at his dog and says: "No, umm, the car was parked, I was bike riding with her and she ran full tilt into the car". ..apparently distracted by a cat.....

both animals recovered completely, i felt soooo bad for the little guy and his fence incident - that HAD to hurt so bad

[AndreaB 1]

Can the anit-gliadin numbers be high from eating other gliadin containing grains? I'm not an expert on any of this but I know for me I react to other grains in a lot of the gluten-free foods, like amaranth, in the same way I do wheat. Just a thought.

Hang in there Armetta

Me too Julie.

I didn't test intolerant to millet, amaranth or quinoa....but if I have a lot of millet bread (like with french toast), I have a reaction. I did test moderately intolerant to gliadin as well as gluten though.

[Rikki Tikki 2]

Let's see...on Gray's Anatomy - - WHICH IS MAKING ME SO FRUSTRATED AND UPSET I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO.......going to write a letter - - I can't take it - - -I can't take it - - - but Izzy got a check for 8.7 million dollars from Denny's dad....... What will she do with that money - - I think something crazy and stupid that will make us mad......

I was wondering if Izzy will end up with the vet? They both lost a spouse, and didn't he cook for her when she was down?

[AndreaB 1]

Sandy,

OUCH. Poor critters.

[DingoGirl 12]

I was wondering if Izzy will end up with the vet? They both lost a spouse, and didn't he cook for her when she was down?

I am quite sure that is the last we are seeing of the vet. And McDreamy - he IS going to break Meredith's heart....again........

Okay we CAN eat quinoa, right? should I bother? is it good? what the heck is it anyway and what do I do with it?

[TriticusToxicum 2]

Okay we CAN eat quinoa, right? should I bother? is it good? what the heck is it anyway and what do I do with it?

http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?s...+flakes+cookies

http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=23839 cookies!

http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?s...c=24213&hl=

I made the "mock" oatmeal cookies they are good. It's supposed to be really healthy.

More than you'll even need to know...

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/afcm/quinoa.html

Try it you'll like it!

[Fiddle-Faddle 18]

Can the anit-gliadin numbers be high from eating other gliadin containing grains?

I had been told that my IgG will always be elevated, even after being gluten-free for extended periods--but it shouldn't be through the roof like when you're eating gluten. I was also told that my thyroid antibodies will always be elevated, even though my Hashimoto's is supposedly under control with Synthroid.

At any rate, that's what I'd been told--whether or not that is accurate, I couldn't tell you! Anybody know more details?

[nikki-uk 28]

One male dog learned that at minus 30, you should not pee against a chain link fence - -yes he got too close and his privates got stuck to the metal - he spent 2 days in clinic, catheterized, on anti inflammatories and pain control.

Poor little fella.I can just see his horror stricken little face.!!

I've found that dogs have very expressive faces!!

Armetta-sorry the Ataxia seems to be getting worse

As others have said..'hang in there!'

[DingoGirl 12]

Sorry to add another serious question... but has anyone ever taken Prozac? And what were your expierences?

Silly.....serious questiosn are fine. we are all in this together.

Prozac - I was on it two different times, for not more than one week each - - was literally crawling out of my skin and thought I might die, or at least kill many people before I did ......BUT BUT BUT - - you must know that all drugs affect people VERY differently. I have been on other SSRI's and had no reaction of that sort at all. It is trial and error - - I know or have known many people who've been on prozac and it worked quite well, in fact I' ve not known any other person who reacted the way I did to prozac.

don't be robbed of your joy, Cecile.....try the Prozac, if it works, HOORAY, you may only need to be on it for a while, or forever, who cares, and it if doesn't work, try something else......

WHY AM I SO HUNGRY ALL THE TIME NOW????????????

[nikki-uk 28]

Sorry to add another serious question... but has anyone ever taken Prozac? And what were your expierences?

Hi Cecile, my experience with Prozac wasn't too good.

Apparently I had a rare reaction ( trust me!) where I broke out in spots and it seemed to affect my fine motor skills amongst other things.

Having said that- to echo Susan, it is different horses for different courses.

In the past it's helped my hubby immensly and I know of many people who sing it's praises where it's really helped.

[jerseyangel 413]

Thanks you guys... I've reacted to many different anti-depressants but never tried this... don't know if I'll bring it up to the doctor or not.... just trying to hear everyone's stories.

Thanks

Celia,

I've not taken it myself, but a good friend's daughter has. She has been on it for several years now--starting when she was about 18. The only problem I know of was when she tried to wean off of it--that was pretty difficult, and she ended up just staying on it.

[Camille'sBigSister 0]

Sorry to add another serious question... but has anyone ever taken Prozac? And what were your expierences?

One of my sisters has taken it for years, with remarkably good results. I just emailed you, so read and heed!!! I love you dearly!

Cissie

[DingoGirl 12]

And in pops Cissie!! well welcome back, crazy lady!!!!!!

[Camille'sBigSister 0]

Silly.....serious questiosn are fine. we are all in this together.

Prozac - I was on it two different times, for not more than one week each - - was literally crawling out of my skin and thought I might die, or at least kill many people before I did ......BUT BUT BUT - - you must know that all drugs affect people VERY differently. I have been on other SSRI's and had no reaction of that sort at all. It is trial and error - - I know or have known many people who've been on prozac and it worked quite well, in fact I' ve not known any other person who reacted the way I did to prozac.

don't be robbed of your joy, Cecile.....try the Prozac, if it works, HOORAY, you may only need to be on it for a while, or forever, who cares, and it if doesn't work, try something else......

WHY AM I SO HUNGRY ALL THE TIME NOW????????????

Susie, I echo everything you said about Prozac!

Don't know why you're hungry all the time. Maybe you're getting better???

I love you dearly also!

Cissie

And in pops Cissie!! well welcome back, crazy lady!!!!!!

Look who's calling people crazy, Esteemed Goofiness!

I emailed you earlier today. Did it get lost in the ether again?

[Rusla 1]

I had prozac once and I almost jumped off a bridge, which is something for someone who is afraid of heights. It made me very suicidal but then I don't react to drugs the way most people would.

[Rikki Tikki 2]

Yeah... I'm really worried about trying new meds... I've been doing okay with the lexapro and I think my problem is that I cut the dose in half because it is a bit expensive and wanted my script to last two months instead of one... I know... you all are going to yell at me.... please don't...

ohhh and the reason I was asking about prozac is because I read that it might help with ostoprosslfjkasjfljsklafjdkl however you spell that... you know... weak bones...

Hi Celia:

I didn't have a good experience with prozac, but it's been years since then. I just felt really hyper. Can you get samples of the Lexapro from your doctor? I used to ask for samples of Allegro because it was so expensive. That worked for a few months then they told me to get my prescription filled

[mouse 0]

Our Walmart has been advertising that they are cutting the costs on hundreds of meds. Maybe Lexipro is one. You might call your Walmart and see. The price slashing is suppose to be a big one.

[Camille'sBigSister 0]

Yeah... I'm really worried about trying new meds... I've been doing okay with the lexapro and I think my problem is that I cut the dose in half because it is a bit expensive and wanted my script to last two months instead of one... I know... you all are going to yell at me.... please don't...

ohhh and the reason I was asking about prozac is because I read that it might help with ostoprosslfjkasjfljsklafjdkl however you spell that... you know... weak bones...

OHHH and OMG Cissi... thank God you are home safe... will go check my e-mail... I missed you so much you have no idea!

Well, thank God! What a relief! I thought you were depressed, you silly girl; didn't know you were thinking about your bones!

Fosamax is what I take for osteoporosis, plus vitamin D. I've never heard that prozac could help; must be something new.

I won't yell at you about cutting the lexapro dose in half, considering the circumstances. Maybe you could get it cheaper in Canada. I don't know how that works, but I assume it isn't too difficult a process, since a lot of people do it.

Love you much!

Cissie