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Hi everyone,

Approximately 2-3 Months ago I had some sort of severe stomach virus where my stool was literally liquid. I had this for approximate a week. Unfortunately after having this I have been suffering from mild diarrhea & a sore upper stomach and upper back off & on ever since. Also, an itchy sensation is experienced aroudn the anus area after going to the the toilet on alot of occasions. I have recently been to the doctor & got a long list of blood test & stool samples conducted.

Everything came back good. Normal for iron, normal for B12, except for one result. My IgG was 84 where normal is supposed to be <34. However my other tests for celiac came back good. IgA test came back <20 (reference of <34 being good) & my Ttg Antibodies came back at <7 (Reference <7 as good) & my Endomysial test came back good as well.

Also, all my stool tests came back fine for any infections etc. I don't remember the exact tests done on my stool, but I do know that it consisted of a large array of things, including looking for infections.

I gave 2 stool samples in small containers, one with some sort of preservative in the the container.

I have been to the specialist & he stated that because I have only had symptons for 2 Months, it is unlikely I have celiac (1-2% chance). To summarize, my symptons are:

- Stomach & upper back pains off & on.

- Unable to focus at times

- Irregular stool. However stool does not float to the top as I have read as being the case due to fat not being metabolized in small intestines.

- Stomach bloating soon after eating for about 45-60 mins

- A considerable amount of flatulence

- General consistent tiredness

NONE of these symptons I had prior to 2 Months ago.

The specialist stated that I should give it 3-4 more weeks & if condition doesn't improve, that I might want to consider getting an endoscopy. I decided that I wanted the Endoscopy test done ASAP. It is booked in for this Saturday. After the test I will have to wait about a week for the final results. I insisted to the specialist I wanted the tests done ASAP. I am booked for this Saturday coming.

Can anybody offer any feedback as to whether the the test results are common for Celiacs & any ideas of what else it could be?

Thanks in advance.

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CarolynM Newbie
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Celiac can come on at any time in life, sometimes triggered by illness. However, I doubt you will get a celiac diagnosis - with symptoms only 2 months, you may not have any damage yet even if your body is having an immune reaction to gluten. If nothing shows up, you could always try the gluten-free diet anyway. Good luck.

karen149 Rookie
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Has your doctor considered that you might have something going on with your pancreas? I've been gluten-free over 3 weeks and still having unusual stools. I have been eliminating dairy also. My GI is going to check this. Sometimes it's an issue of enzymes out of balance still producing the same results. Pancreatic issues can also present with stomach and back pain. I hope you get the right answer.

Karen

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