Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Another Newbie


ppeterin

Recommended Posts

ppeterin Newbie

Hello,

I stumbled onto this site after furiously searching for an explanation to my sudden and not-so-sudden symptoms.

A little history,

I have had issues with anxiety and panic since I was a teenager. At the time I used an anxiety packet to get through and it seemed to help. Several years later I ended up on prozac to help with anxiety and depression. Starting around age 22-23 I started to have symptoms lactose intolerance and I cut it completely out of the diet. A year or so after cutting out dairy I started to develop IBS. Around the same time I developed asthma. Like a good boy I followed all the advice on how to manage IBS. That advice included lots of bulky and high fiber grains. Those have been my staple for years. I'll admit that I have also developed some bad dietary habits like eating far too much sugar and using far too much immodium to manage my IBS.

Fast forward 7 years. I am 30 now and recently I took myself off of my latest anti-depressant. For about a month after coming off I felt relatively health except that my IBS sypmtoms were worsening. I again started looking around online and stumbled across a couple of anti-candida diet websites. I figured that if cutting some foods out of my diet would help with my overall symptoms (even if one-tenth of what was promised was true) I would do it. I stuck to the diet for three days and got pretty sick and weak. However, my mood noticeably improved and my bowl symptoms were gone. I just felt really weak and that was what caused me to turn to bread for some sustenance once again. I would have tried rice but I was under the impression that white rice was worse in the diet than whole wheat bread. So I ate bread. A few days later I added some ghee to my bread because I was told it was lactose free.

I was fine for a few days after reintroducing a little bread with each meal. Three days after I couldn't fall asleep for any reason at all. WIDE awake for several hours until some Tylenol PM saved me. I haven't had insomnia in years. The very next day I start developing anxiety. Not the regular run of the mill anxiety but HOLY COW! this is insane I can't find relief anxiety. Then today. Horrible and painful diarrhea (tan and smelly - stetorrhea I guess it is called-I have had it before-for years in fact) and anxiety I haven't felt in years. Now I am sitting here almost unable to work at all. I can barely eat although I have finally figured I should be sneaking rice down the chute instead of bread.

That was the only time in my life that I can remember going without gluten for ONE full day let alone THREE. The conclusion I am moving towards is that it was the cutting of gluten, followed by reintroduction of gluten that has caused this sudden onset of suck. I also completely cut out refined sugars and anything that can easily be converted to sugar. I also continued on without eating any dairy products. I never drink anything with caffeine. When I reintroduced whole wheat bread I also reintroduced a little refined sugar from the honey and white-flour component of the bread (Whole- wheat my butt!). When I ate the ghee I reintroduced a little dairy (supposedly harmless :blink: ). So the question for me is which of the three things are causing my problems. Or are all three causing my problems. The dairy and the sugar are the most likely culprits unless you consider that my problems with dairy and sugar may actually be due to celiac. Did I just reintroduce three things I either can't digest

I am terrified. My wife and I just closed on a home and now I can barely function. I know that celiac can't be diagnosed as simply like lactose intolerance. I am just very frustrated and scared. I'm even crying and I NEVER cry.

My course of action is simply to cut out gluten from this moment forward and to see if I can return to those few days when I felt OK. I have an appointment with a PA in two days since I can't get in to see my primary until September. I'll ask for the testing though I know that not eating gluten can throw the tests off.

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

My only question is how long after stopping the eating of gluten will the tests still register the anti-bodies? Is two days without gluten too long?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Gutbomb Rookie

Are you sure you aren't telling my story? I don't have any answers for you since I am going through the testing phase myself but hang in there. Someone will come a long with some answers and just so you know I called out of work sick today. You aren't alone!

Amanda

gfpaperdoll Rookie

it is your decision but I would quit eating gluten immediately. If you are interested in any testing I would test thru Enterolab.com I like them & tested my family there. You can be gluten free for up to a year or two & not effect the outcome of the tests. They also do the gene tests...

with your strong neurological depression, anxiety, etc you probably have at least one DQ1 gene.

I have an 83 year old friend that had been sick with classic celiac symptoms for three years (she is also Irish) & about day two gluten-free her depression, panic attacks, & anxiety were gone. People were talking to her & not believeing the huge change in her.

Most of us with DQ1 do not have depression when we are gluten-free. well I am gluten-free, DF etc. most meds will not help depression caused by gluten.

welcome to the group & I hope you are better soon. Just quit eating wheat, rye, barley & oats. Giving up dairy & soy is also strongly advised...

good luck

GFinDC Veteran

Hi ppeterin,

This article on the forum might help answer your questions about testing.

https://www.celiac.com/articles/57/1/Interp...ults/Page1.html

I suggest you ask your doctor to do the blood test first, and a gene test. You can start reading up on G.F. eating and diet in the meanwhile.

ppeterin Newbie

Thank you for all the replies.

I spent the day in the ER because I just couldn't eat or drink. Far too nauseas. I got an IV and some anti-nausea medication. Feelings slightly better. The doc refused to run any celiac anti-body tests because I failed to eat anything with gluten for two days last week. I think he just didn't want to touch it. The good news is that visiting the ER got me on the fast track to see an GI doc. I will be getting a colonoscopy this Thursday. It is my understanding that biopsies for celiac come from going down the throat and sampling the jejunem. So I don't think I'll be able to get the proper biopsy off the bat. However, I will ask him to run the gene and antibody tests.

Either way, I am going to cut gluten and soy (and ghee) out of my diet and see what happens.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to Ello's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      Small Bowel Resection 12 inches

    2. - Ello replied to Ello's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      Small Bowel Resection 12 inches

    3. - trents replied to Ello's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      Small Bowel Resection 12 inches

    4. - Ello replied to Ello's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      Small Bowel Resection 12 inches

    5. - trents replied to Ello's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      Small Bowel Resection 12 inches

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,831
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    ATownCeliac
    Newest Member
    ATownCeliac
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      You might consider asking for a referral to a RD (Registered Dietician) to help with food choices and planning a diet. Even apart from any gluten issues, you will likely find there are some foods you need to avoid because of the shorter bowel but you may also find that your system may make adjustments over time and that symptoms may improve.
    • Ello
      I wish Dr’s would have these discussions with their patients. So frustrating but will continue to do research. Absolutely love this website. I will post any updates on my testing and results.  Thank you
    • trents
      Losing 12" of your small bowel is going to present challenges for you in nutritional uptake because you are losing a significant amount of nutritional absorption surface area. You will need to focus on consuming foods that are nutritionally dense and also probably look at some good supplements. If indeed you are having issues with gluten you will need to educate yourself as to how gluten is hidden in the food supply. There's more to it than just avoiding the major sources of gluten like bread and pasta. It is hidden in so many things you would never expect to find it in like canned tomato soup and soy sauce just to name a few. It can be in pills and medications.  Also, your "yellow diarrhea, constipation and bloating" though these are classic signs of a gluten disorder, could also be related to the post surgical shorter length of your small bowel causing incomplete processing/digestion of food.
    • Ello
      Yes this information helps. I will continue to be pro active with this issues I am having. More testing to be done. Thank you so much for your response. 
    • trents
      There are two gluten-related disorders that share many of the same symptoms but differ in nature from each other. One is known as celiac disease or "gluten intolerance". By nature, it is an autoimmune disorder, meaning the ingestion of gluten triggers the body to attack it's own tissues, specifically the lining of the small bowel. This attack causes inflammation and produces antibodies that can be detected in the blood by specific tests like the TTG-IGA test you had. Over time, if gluten is not withheld, this inflammation can cause severe damage to the lining of the small bowel and even result in nutrient deficiency related health issues since the small bowel lining is organ where all the nutrition found in our food is absorbed.  The other is NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity or just "gluten sensitivity") which we know less about and are unsure of the exact mechanism of action. It is not an autoimmune disorder and unlike celiac disease it does not damage the lining of the small bowel, though, like celiac disease, it can cause GI distress and it can also do other kinds of damage to the body. It is thought to be more common than celiac disease. Currently, we cannot test for NCGS. Celiac disease must first be ruled out to arrive at a diagnosis of NCGS. Both disorders require elimination of gluten from the diet.  Either of these disorders can find their onset at any stage of life. We know that celiac disease has a genetic component but the genes are inactive until awakened by some stress event. About 40% of the general population has the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% develop active celiac disease. The incidence of NCGS is thought to be considerably higher. I hope this helps.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.