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Anyone Try Daura gluten-free Beer?

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Had two glasses tonite with dinner and loved it but I didnt realize that it was made with barley. Im assuming its safe since they tested it on severe celiacs but wanted to get some feedback. I dont think i developed any symptoms from it but then again i never really know when i get glutened anyway


Endoscopy & blood panel all negative 12/09 after being strict w/ gluten free diet

As of 8/09 - Candida Overgrowth, C.difficile overgrowth, elevated fecal anti-gliadin, elevated putrefactive SCFA's

Developed severe lactose intolerance, IBS and food sensitivities in 02 after contracting Giardia from a river in Oregon

Had negative celiac blood work in 02

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Tested high positive for egg, dairy, soy, ginger, mustard - 2008

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Had two glasses tonite with dinner and loved it but I didnt realize that it was made with barley. Im assuming its safe since they tested it on severe celiacs but wanted to get some feedback. I dont think i developed any symptoms from it but then again i never really know when i get glutened anyway

really? it's made from barley- and it's "gluten free"?? that would make me so nervous...

ive never tried it. i did try my first gluten free beer the other night: Redbridge gluten-free beer (made with sorghum).. it was AWFUL just AWFUL... i couldnt finish it.. so i just went with Woodchuck Cider the rest of the night which is gluten-free & pretty delish


1986- Elevated Speckled ANA/no Lupus.negative Sjorgens

2008- AntiGliadin IGA/IGg~ Negative,TTG IGA/IGg~ Weak Positive, Endomysial Antibody~ Positive, IGA Deficient.

no biopsy (insurance denied)

6/2010- Enterolab Gene Test:

HLA-DQB1 Allele 1 0302

HLA-DQB1 Allele 2 0302

HLADQ 3,3 (subtype 8,8)

7/2010- 100% Gluten Free

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Thanks for letting us know it is made with barley. I will stick with Redbridge or Woodchuck. I hope your still feeling no ill effects.


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"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)

Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002

Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis

All bold resoved or went into remission in time with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002

 Gene Test Aug 2007

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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Found this article :

http://celiacdisease.about.com/b/2010/10/22/gluten-free-estrella-damm-daura-beer-made-with-barley-malt-imported-to-u-s.htm

Gluten-Free Estrella Damm DAURA Beer, Made with Barley Malt, Imported to U.S.

Gluten-free beer lovers have another option: Estrella Damm DAURA beer, made in Barcelona with barley malt, now is available in the United States. The company says it uses a proprietary process to strip the gluten protein from the barley malt, "leaving only the 'real beer' taste," according to importer United States Beverage.

"Because the gluten protein has been stripped away, DAURA's gluten content level is less than 6 parts per million, far below the 20 ppm required for gluten-free products," according to the importer.

DAURA, which won "Best Gluten-Free Beer" honors in both 2008 and 2009 at the annual World Beer Awards, resulted from a four-year investigative research project between the Estrella Damm brew masters, the Gluten Unit of the Centre of Research of the Spanish Ministry of Education and Science, and various celiac organizations, the importer said.


 

 

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Thanks for letting us know in the coping thread that you did react to it. I hope your feeling better soon.

Items like this are why I really hate to see a gluten free 'level' set. I would much rather see gluten ingredients in any amout listed on a label and possible cross contamination issues required to be listed also. Go ahead and put 'it tests under ----ppm' so we can make the judgement on whether it is safe for us or not. We don't see, for example, peanuts listed on a label as tested as less than ----ppm and then see it labeled as peanut free so why can't we do the same labeling with gluten. And yes I do know gluten intolerance and celiac is considered different from an allergy.


Courage does not always roar, sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying

"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)

Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002

Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis

All bold resoved or went into remission in time with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002

 Gene Test Aug 2007

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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I bought some for New Years Eve & became very ill. (way to ring in the new year) I will admit that I also ate at a potluck that night. My potluck community is mostly gluten-free & the rest are very careful, so I do not suspect them.

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I've had this beer many times and never had a problem.

I've never had an issue with Daura either and I generally get a severe reaction when I've been glutened. I do find it interesting that they changed their label though. When they first came to the US, they had gluten under X parts per million on the label. Now they don't have a mention of gluten or lack of gluten anywhere on the label. They never advertised as gluten "free" in the US. I don't know why the ppm on the label was an issue. It could just be that they are trying to reach the non-Celiac market as well. For some reason, putting "gluten free" on an even naturally gluten free product scares away people that don't need to avoid gluten.

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Drink Green's, if you can find it. IMO, the best gluten-free beer out there. St Peters and Bards are good as well.

My husband drinks Daura because he genuinely likes it and so we don't have to worry about cc. But I've always wussed out - afraid to try it.


Blood Tests: TTG IgA Negative / Total IGA Normal

Skin: Confirmed DH
Genetic: DQ8 & DQ6 Positive (DQA1*0301, DQB1*0302, DQA1*0103, DQB1*0603)
Free Of: Gluten 1/1/11, Dairy 2010, Soy 2011

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I've never had an issue with Daura either and I generally get a severe reaction when I've been glutened. I do find it interesting that they changed their label though. When they first came to the US, they had gluten under X parts per million on the label. Now they don't have a mention of gluten or lack of gluten anywhere on the label. They never advertised as gluten "free" in the US. I don't know why the ppm on the label was an issue. It could just be that they are trying to reach the non-Celiac market as well. For some reason, putting "gluten free" on an even naturally gluten free product scares away people that don't need to avoid gluten.

I read an article somewhere (but can't find it now) that said US labelling laws don't allow them to label the beer gluten free because its made from barley. We have the same thing here in Canada with oats. Certified gluten-free oats cannot be labelled as gluten-free, only wheat free, because Canadian law is such that anything with oats cannot be labelled gluten-free (even if certified pure). So for example, the very same Bob's Red Mill oats that are labelled gluten-free in the US, are labelled only wheat-free in Canada.

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Hi,

New to forum, mild celiac 30yrs+. Redbridge is made in the U.S. by Anheuser-Busch. On the label, it states 'gluten free', and also wheat and barley free. I find it to be a decent beer; a little sweet at the end, and best very cold(be careful-freezes very quickly).

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mild celiac 30yrs+.

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Just be aware that Redbridge is brewed in the same plants as regular beer, so cc could be a factor. Also, it contains corn syrup. IMO, there's no place for corn syrup in beer.


Blood Tests: TTG IgA Negative / Total IGA Normal

Skin: Confirmed DH
Genetic: DQ8 & DQ6 Positive (DQA1*0301, DQB1*0302, DQA1*0103, DQB1*0603)
Free Of: Gluten 1/1/11, Dairy 2010, Soy 2011

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Many thanks to all who have waved me off this before trying Daura.

Wegman's Grocery (East Coast, DC region) is selling Daura in it's gluten-free section,

along with Bard's Tale, Redbridge and Greens. I was a bit suspicious.

In my book, Greens Dubbel Dark Ale is the best gluten-free beer there is, hands down,

though it's alcohol content is way up there (plan on an early night).

In the DC region, it is available at Total Wine and now Wegman's Grocery

Oh, and Wegman's labels their store-brand corn chips gluten-free and I've had no trouble with them.

Cheers...

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Just be aware that Redbridge is brewed in the same plants as regular beer, so cc could be a factor.

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I've never heard of any cc issues or even questions about Redbridge before.

In fact, when it launched, the story was limited supply due to limited dedicated factory space, which was being increased. Heard it from an AB employee I've known for 45 yrs.

Is there anyone here who believes they were glutened by a Redbridge?


>>>>>>> tom <<<<<<<

Celiac 1st diagnosed as a toddler, in the 60s. Docs then, between bloodletting & leech-tending, said "he'll grow out of it" & I was back on gluten & mostly fine for 30yrs.

Gluten-free since 12-03

Dairy-free since 10-04

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Everybody see this?

Now American breweries are making "deglutened" gluten-free beer w/ barley malt too. :angry:


>>>>>>> tom <<<<<<<

Celiac 1st diagnosed as a toddler, in the 60s. Docs then, between bloodletting & leech-tending, said "he'll grow out of it" & I was back on gluten & mostly fine for 30yrs.

Gluten-free since 12-03

Dairy-free since 10-04

Soy-free since 5-07

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Nobody's mentioned how it tastes! Can't stand Redbridge, and can't get Daura here. Will try it soon as I can though.

best regards, lm


gluten-free 12-18-06

colonoscopy, upper GI
blood, urine, stool tests, prometheus panel
positive endoscopy/positive duodenal biopsies (severe villous atrophy, high intraepithelial lympocytes)
diagnosed celiac disease by Gastroenterologist Andrew R. Gottesman, 12-18-06

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Hi recently diagnosed and love my beer. I have been told that daura damm is ok under 6ppm but Canadian celiac associated said still not good enough for celiacs. I am asymptomatic and have stayed 100% away from gluten since being diagnosed but can someone help give me a definitive answer on this beer?

I honestly cant imagine a beer that is less than 2 ppm can be harmful but just new to this

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19 minutes ago, Lisak said:

Hi recently diagnosed and love my beer. I have been told that daura damm is ok under 6ppm but Canadian celiac associated said still not good enough for celiacs. I am asymptomatic and have stayed 100% away from gluten since being diagnosed but can someone help give me a definitive answer on this beer?

I honestly cant imagine a beer that is less than 2 ppm can be harmful but just new to this

Thanks peeps

If you are diagnosed with celiac disease, I would follow the advice of the Canadian celiac disease Association.   You can see by this thread that this beer is controversial.  Ask yourself why you would be willing to take a risk like this?  I get the feeling this more than just beer.  

 


Non-functioning Gall bladder Removal Surgery 2005

Diagnosed via Blood Test (DGP IgA only) and Endoscopy: March 2013

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis

Osteopenia/osteoporosis -- June 2013

Allergies and Food Intolerances

Repeat endoscopy/Biopsies: Healed

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I love beer and have been totally offended by gluten free beer. I drink Omission and New Belgium Glutiny. None of these have made me sick and none have made me think "Wow, that's a great beer!" I'm trying to find a good tasting beer but have resigned myself to drinking hard ciders.

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1 hour ago, cyclinglady said:

If you are diagnosed with celiac disease, I would follow the advice of the Canadian celiac disease Association.   You can see by this thread that this beer is controversial.  Ask yourself why you would be willing to take a risk like this?  I get the feeling this more than just beer.  

Thanks!

you are right! it is more than just beer, I'm trying to understand the science behind the parts per million and what I can and can't have based on that.

If less than 20 ppm is considered glutenfree is that ok to eat? and if so, why is less than 3ppm not ok. Sorry but since this is so new I just want to be 100% sure. 

 

 

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You can google and research on your own, but beer is not distilled, but brewed.  For this particular beer,  they use an enzyme to break down the barley protein (gluten) into tiny fragments.  Too tiny for normal testing to measure (ELISA).  So, celiac experts agree that they can not be certain that this beer is safe for celiacs.  

It might be safe for some celiacs and for others it is not.  Who knows?  Each person has to determine what is safe or not.  When you are unsure and do not understand the science, it is best to follow the recommendations of celiac organizations who err on the side of caution and not the manufacturer who wants to sell as much product as possible.  

Learn more about 20 ppm here:

https://celiac.org/blog/2014/08/fda-gluten-free-food-labeling-information-page/

 


Non-functioning Gall bladder Removal Surgery 2005

Diagnosed via Blood Test (DGP IgA only) and Endoscopy: March 2013

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis

Osteopenia/osteoporosis -- June 2013

Allergies and Food Intolerances

Repeat endoscopy/Biopsies: Healed

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Gluten removed beers are not gluten free nor are they safe for celiacs.  About 6 months after I was diagnosed I was given one of these beers...I didn't know then what I know now.  I wanted to die that night.  I spent so much time on the crapper I just slept on the bathroom floor.  It took me 2 weeks to work through the rest of the symptoms.  Brain fog, fatigue, nausea, bloating, joint pain...it was horrible.  Don't do it!

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