Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

More Confused Than Ever


alexsami

Recommended Posts

alexsami Contributor

A month ago, i had a celiac blood panel done, having had diarrhea and lots of gas for about 4 weeks. My results were Tissue Transglutaminase, 3<, immunoglobulin A, 223, and Gliadin Antibody (IGA) 16.....everything normal, except gliadin antibody, <11 normal, >17 positive. Nurse called me and said you have celiac disease, remove gluten from your diet. One month ago I did just that. I have an appt. with a GI next week.......after everything I have read...u cant be diagnosed on the one blood test alone.....is it possible I can just be gluten intolerant, and one day I can eat some of these foods again.....?? Please any insight would be greatly appreciated. very confused


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



zus888 Contributor

Truth? I don't know. And I can't say that anyone truly knows. The tests aren't perfect - no test is. You *could* have celiac and have biopsy results showing absolutely nothing.

My story:

All tests negative except the IgG gliadin, which was just one point above negative. This was done AFTER I had a positive biopsy. And, guess what, I could, technically, not have celiac. There ARE other reasons to have blunted villi: soy or dairy intolerance, crohns, intestinal cancer, lymphoma, and a few other things. I had no symptoms when diagnosed. Nothing besides fatigue, but, really, that hasn't improved much after the diet. And my fatigue isn't really in the realm of abnormal when you consider the fact that I have 3 kids: 7, 4, and 2 years old. So, yes, I have my sights on the possibility that I, in fact, may not have celiac disease.

Statistically speaking, the chances are quite high that it IS celiac. First, I have a number of other autoimmune diseases and they seem to travel in packs. Second, the likelihood of this being something else with both the IgG gliadin and the biopsy coming back as positive is pretty slim. That doesn't mean it's impossible though.

So, the PROBABILITY of you and me having celiac is high, but the true test is going on the diet. I will be vigilant for a year and get retested (both endoscopy and blood). If my results are unchanged, I'll be insisting on other tests to rule out the worst of the possible culprits.

I probably haven't helped you at all. What it boils down to is the science hasn't caught up yet. We're still on the learning curve with celiac and gluten intolerance. What we DO know is that the treatment for both is EXACTLY the same. We also know that both involve the activation of the immune system, with a different pathogenesis. Additionally, BOTH are very serious and are associated with all the other awful symptoms, risks, associated diseases, etc.

Going on the diet is possibly the best test we have now. And, even that isn't perfect because there ARE a select few people out there who are silent celiacs. Though rare, they do exist.

Sorry I can't answer your question.

alexsami Contributor

thanks for the response

Skylark Collaborator

A month ago, i had a celiac blood panel done, having had diarrhea and lots of gas for about 4 weeks. My results were Tissue Transglutaminase, 3<, immunoglobulin A, 223, and Gliadin Antibody (IGA) 16.....everything normal, except gliadin antibody, <11 normal, >17 positive. Nurse called me and said you have celiac disease, remove gluten from your diet. One month ago I did just that. I have an appt. with a GI next week.......after everything I have read...u cant be diagnosed on the one blood test alone.....is it possible I can just be gluten intolerant, and one day I can eat some of these foods again.....?? Please any insight would be greatly appreciated. very confused

It sounds to me like you need to go back on gluten and have an endoscopy with a biopsy to sort it out. I suspect your GI will say the same.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,204
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Sarahmegan
    Newest Member
    Sarahmegan
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      NCGS does not cause damage to the small bowel villi so, if indeed you were not skimping on gluten when you had the antibody blood testing done, it is likely you have celiac disease.
    • Scott Adams
      I will assume you did the gluten challenge properly and were eating a lot of gluten daily for 6-8 weeks before your test, but if not, that could be the issue. You can still have celiac disease with negative blood test results, although it's not as common:  Clinical and genetic profile of patients with seronegative coeliac disease: the natural history and response to gluten-free diet: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606118/  Seronegative Celiac Disease - A Challenging Case: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441776/  Enteropathies with villous atrophy but negative coeliac serology in adults: current issues: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764141/  Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If your symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet it would likely signal NCGS.
    • Xravith
      I'm very confused... My blood test came out negative, I checked all antibodies. I suppose my Total IgA levels are normal (132 mg/dl), so the test should be reliable. Still, I'm not relieved as I can't tolerate even a single biscuit. I need to talk to my doctor about whether a duodenal biopsy is necessary. But it is really possible to have intestinal damage despite having a seronegative results? I have really strong symptoms, and I don't want to keep skipping university lectures or being bedridden at home.
    • Scott Adams
      They may want to also eliminate other possible causes for your symptoms/issues and are doing additional tests.  Here is info about blood tests for celiac disease--if positive an endoscopy where biopsies of your intestinal villi are taken to confirm is the typical follow up.    
    • Scott Adams
      In the Europe the new protocol for making a celiac disease diagnosis in children is if their tTg-IgA (tissue transglutaminase IgA) levels are 10 times or above the positive level for celiac disease--and you are above that level. According to the latest research, if the blood test results are at certain high levels that range between 5-10 times the reference range for a positive celiac disease diagnosis, it may not be necessary to confirm the results using an endoscopy/biopsy: Blood Test Alone Can Diagnose Celiac Disease in Most Children and Adults TGA-IgA at or Above Five Times Normal Limit in Kids Indicates Celiac Disease in Nearly All Cases No More Biopsies to Diagnose Celiac Disease in Children! May I ask why you've had so many past tTg-IgA tests done, and many of them seem to have been done 3 times during short time intervals?    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.