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i think cider is much better than gluten-free beer and it's much cheaper since you can get it at a lot of liquor stores (instead of shipping). hornsby's is the only cider that ISN'T gluten-free (at least last time i checked) that i know of.

strongbow, cider jack, woodpecker, wood chuck, K are all gluten-free

i don't think what lovegrov said was rude. there is a certain responsibility in posting, at least i think so, to not post that something is gluten-free or infer that it is without at least minimal checking (of course there are products that are "gluten free" that upon closer inspection aren't due to cross contamination, whether in a restaurant setting, or in a factory where it is produced). i totally understand you're new at this and it's hard, which is why he was giving you the proper warning that the food was not gluten-free.

that said, fast food is just like beyond risky but at the same time there are many circumstances where it seems like the only option. unfortunately my past 2 experiences with mcds french fries, which normally i have great luck with and are the only fast food fries i'll eat (wendy's are not gluten-free and BK always has an onion ring or two in them) i've gotten sick off of. and 2 different mcds too. so i'm now i'm torn about whether i should just avoid them perm. or not

a lot of places in ireland are super celiac friendly (or coeliac as they spell it out there). it's easy when you go food shopping cos foods are labeled "suitable for coeliacs"

check out Fitzers, Temple Bar, Dublin - they actually have food suitable/adaptable for coeliacs on the regular menu !! they have awesome buffalo wings !

most restaurants i went to had gluten-free bread and one had gluten-free pasta

watch out for K. it's something like 7 % alcohol volume if i remember correctly, which is roughly double a beer. personally, i didn't like it much. i do LOVE strongbow but it's fairly difficult to find in the states. cider jack, woodchuck, woodpecker and magner's are good ciders. magners and cider jack a little less sweet than woodchuck and woodpecker, and strongbow is the dryest and has an alcohol volume of 5 % (or 6 % if you buy it in the republic of ireland haha)

i've tried both of the american gluten-free beers, bard's and ramapo valley, and i find cider is much better alternative plus much more widely available.

the only cider brand i know of to stay clear from is hornsby's

i have hormel pepperoni that actually has "gluten free" printed on it. i'm not sure if they do that with all their products though

their pizza crusts are my favorite ever! and i loved their chocolate chip cookies too, that's all i've tried so far

i also think a lawsuit is a bad idea. first off, it's a private restaurant - they can serve to choose whatever food they want. and since you were able to eat there anyway i'm not sure exactly what your lawsuit would be based on, just that they wouldn't allow you to precisely order what you wanted? i'm not trying to be mean or insensitive (after all, i have celiac too) i'm just trying to give you a realistic legal perspective.

second reason i think a lawsuit is a bad idea, is that i don't belive every problem should be solved in courts. i wholeheartedly support boycotting, spreading negative publicity, etc.

i'm in law school, and recently have been studying the americans with disabilities act for a paper i'm writing. from what i've read while researching my topic (which does NOT have to do with celiac) problems with food do not constitute disabilities under the ADA, which means there is no entitlement to reasonable accommodations. the size of the accommodation does not determine whether or not it's legally required.

i did a search on lexis (a legal database) and no state or federal cases came up on a search of both the ADA and celiac, or gluten intolerance.

how long ago was that celiac3270 ? united used to offer gluten-free meals then they didn't for awhile, are they offering them again?

i was there last summer, but i was staying with a friend on an american air base so i had shipped gluten-free food to him before i got there...

but the little bit i did eat out, rice with scrambled eggs and ginger or you can go to one of those restaurants (i forget what they are called) where they searve you rice and meat raw and you cook the meat yourself on a little grill. no chance for cross contanimation that way

i also found japanese people to be the nicest people i've ever encountered. even if they didn't speak english they went through great trouble to try to understand what i was saying, and they were always trying very hard to be helpful !

that's really cool, thank you!

sorry if this is getting repetitive, so mccann's oats IS ok??

and flagbabyds, what is the brand name of the oats you use ? or do you get them at some kind of specialty store ? have they been tested for gluten?

i'd love some oats

i've found ireland and the UK are amazing as well! the best gluten-free bread i've ever had is in the UK (dietary specials breakfast rolls) the only gluten-free bread i've ever had that doesn't have to be toasted/warmed up to taste good. i believe ireland has the most celiacs per capita so a lot of people have heard of it there.

and for the drinkers out there, almost every pub i went to in ireland and the UK had cider on tap - strongbow or magners (called bulmers in ireland)!

i'd like to go back to the original topic for a sec...

i asked this question in another thread a while back and never got an answer: if every crumb does damage, etc. does that mean if you're young and have celiac you will ultimately suffer the consequences as though had eaten gluten ? inevitably we all accidentally consume gluten. i eat out on average once a month (unless i'm on vacation!) so that's always a risk (even with explaining etc. i've still gotten sick a few times)

and just on your average day, who knows how many little crumbs you get off a desk at school or the workplace etc. or you use a soap in a pub bathroom that has gluten etc.

inevitably over time these little things will add up .. and the younger you are, the more time that is for them to add up.

i used to think that occassionally getting gluten in me (through cross-contamination or mislabeling of food etc.) was no big deal until i read this board ! any help with this question would be great!

i'm not sure if this has been said or not, but isn't it true that so as long you adhere to a gluten-free diet your risk of pretty much everything becomes pretty much the same as a non-celiac? this is assuming you don't already have something before you're diagnosed as well.

i just read an article the other day, through this site i'm pretty sure, that said that infertility is the same for celiac women who are gluten-free as that of the normal population (i guess previously it had been believed to be worse)

some of my gluten-free food is also vegan - i guess they are trying to appeal to a larger audience. so definitely seek that kind of stuff out. i think my sister in law who's vegan eats a lot of beans. i know nuts have some protein. brown rice. hmm try doing an internet search for like protein + vegan + gluten free or something.

good luck ! report back with how it's going

btw vegan = no animal products of any kind (vegans who do this for animal rights reasons not health will also cut out leather products, etc.)

vegetarian = no meat

then there's like vegetarians who eat fish, vegetarians who eat chicken, etc. i forget what all those names are

i also met a kid once who was vegan, unless he'd hunted something

hope that helps you celiac3270

yeah i was surprised by the response to this thread too. i brought up awhile ago that i eat american food that's gluten free according to the euro standard (since usa doesn't have one) and i thought the response was predominantly: any gluten is too much (which i totally understand, i personally find it too difficult to avoid even 'gluten free' food and feel if it's ok for europe, it's ok for me !)

i'm personally confused on this issue, although i continue eating food that's "gluten free" even if it falls in that euro standard. especially since something could look gluten free ingredient wise and end up having more gluten from cc than something labeled 'gluten free' in accordance with the european standard.

2 things in this thread confusing me:

1. i thought bacon could contain gluten (the only i know of that does however is mcdonald's still i thought we shouldn't order it at restaurants unless they know it's gluten-free) if mcdonalds is the only one with gluten bacon i'll go back to ordering bacon at restaurants!

2. i thought sour cream was also sometimes a problem (this could just be an old CSA myth, but maybe there's food starch or something ?)

at this point for me, having had celiac for awhile, i still find out eating out to be the biggest challenge. it's especially embarassing in front of people i've just met. i rarely eat out (hey it saves money, so no great loss without some small gain!) but i definitely feel most comfortable at a place like outback or pf chang's. i feel bad cos i used to prefer mom&pop type places instead of chains but now chains are much easier.

expensive restaurants are ok and i actually, surprisingly had very good luck at 2 functions (2 nights in a row so if i'd gotten gluten at both i would've felt it!) one was a formal dinner for a competition at school, and the other a school dance and at both i had very good gluten-free meals that i ordered a head of time. at both places the chefs were more than helpful and at the formal dinner the chef even came out personally to see me even though there were about 50 people there.

that said, the one place i feel 100% comfortable eating out is at disneyworld. not only do i get gluten-free food, but i also get interesting, different food than i normally eat.

i got an extensive list from walgreens of their gluten-free meds and now i use only walgreens for over the counter meds cos it's soo easy just having 1 big list. i've had good luck with them!

i probably would stay gluten-free just out of sheer paranoia haha but still it would be cool if you could just take a pill before awkward social situations like a business lunch or a wedding etc. so you didn't have to explain and worry about the food!

why couldn't you just go inside and look at their menu ? i'm confused.

honestly i wouldn't say anything bad about them. i actually always bring my own gluten-free menus cos for a long time(maybe still) theoutback near my house didn't have a copy of the gluten-free menu.

this was a really great place to go to ! don't write them off.

sometimes when i drink i get really red cheeks - i think it does happen more to asians but i've also noticed it in those of irish descent. i'm not sure exactly how bad your bf's is but mine is sort of just like ok well there's nothing i can do about it! if it's not too too bad you should look around - i bet there's other people at a party/etc. that have the same thing going on and it doesn't seem like it's gluten related - good luck !

what kind of gluten-free bread do you use? i haven't found any in the states that doesn't need to be toasted first

(although i found a great great kind in the UK that didn't! but it's hard/super expensive to ship to the states)

ensure

they say it's best chilled but i've found it's still pretty good at a cool room temp (like when i leave it in my locker at school, an area that stays pretty cool)

that's a great way to get vitamins and fill you up with some calories!