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Macmuireadhaigh
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Althought I don't know what's wrong with me yet (seen a doctor, ordered tests, insurance lapsed and now I'm waiting for re-enrollment before I can reschedule for tests), lately I've been eating more breads, pastas, and various things with gluten in it, and I've been noticing that I'm starting to taste a little metal again (like before) and my joints are starting to hurt again. For a while I cut myself off of a lot of gluten foods because I realized my joints stopped hurting and I didn't taste metal, but I got curious and wanted to start eating regular foods again and now this.

Are there definitive differences in symptoms between a celiac and a gluten-intolerant person? Would I know one from another by specific symptoms?

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Are there definitive differences in symptoms between a celiac and a gluten-intolerant person? Would I know one from another by specific symptoms?

I wouldn't think so. That's why they run all the tests in the first instance. Really, the only difference between the two up to this point has been the biopsy showing damage to the small intestine which has always been used as the hallmark of celiac disease.. This may or may not change as further research is done into non-celiac gluten intolerance.

Of course, there is also dermatitis herpetiformis, which is also classified as celiac disease, and many doctors also diagnose celiac now based on neurological symptoms, but for gastrointestinal celiac disease there really is no difference in the presenting symptoms.

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GFinDC
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Right, not difference, but the range of symptoms is very wide. Some people have no symptoms at all, and they call that "silent celiac". Others have only nuerolgical symptoms, or joint pain, or some combo of those and other symptoms etc. Endless possibilities of symptom combinations.

Non-celiac wheat sensitivity article

http://www.celiac.co...ists/Page1.html

Relevant markers to distinguish wheat sensitivity from IBS include Anemia, weight loss and history of food allergy in infancy. Wheat sensitive patients also tended to have more coexistent atopic diseases.

From this study, we know that non-celiac wheat sensitivity exists. Further studies will explore the distinction between the celiac-like and allergy-like types of the condition.

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