pinchy pain under ribs and muskuloskeletal pain

[MADMOM]

i’ve been gluten free one month now after just being diagnosed - after two weeks of being gluten free i felt really good - i never had many of the symptoms when i was diagnosed after my endoscopy this past december but was feeling pinchy pain under my ribs mainly on right side but then on both - last week i had 3 consecutive days of eating eggplant, tomatoes and peppers - i began feeling this pinchy pain a few hours after the eggplant - i also had flax seed in my oatmeal - i’m so upset -i’ve been very vigilant and know i didn’t get contaminated but didn’t expect to feel this again - anybody have issues digesting these veggies? i read that they are night shade veggies and can react to autoimmune diseases - 

[trents]

Nightshades tend to aggravate inflammatory conditions in some people. You mention the flax seed added to your oatmeal. Do you not usually do that? I'm not aware of any issues with flax seed as far as celiac disease per se. However, if you have diverticular disease it might be problematic as would other foods containing small seeds.

[MADMOM]

i have mild diverticulosis but nothing that dr is concerned with - i truly believe it’s the seeds though as i’ve eaten peppers and tomatoes more often than eggplant and no issue - i’m still in discomfort 6 days later 

[Ennis-TX]

Hmm you might double check the oatmeal to see if labeled Gluten Free. They do often have contamination issues otherwise. Another thing to consider is like 10-20% of celiacs will react to oatmeal the same as gluten to some degree regardless of being gluten free.

[knitty kitty]

MADMOM,

You mentioned in another post you had baked eggplant with olive oil.  Celiacs can have problems digesting fats.  The gall bladder (on your right side under ribs) secretes bile to help with fat digestion, but Celiacs frequently have gallbladder dysfunction.  Something to ask your doctor about.

Be sure you use quality olive oil, not one that is diluted with corn or soy oil. 

And do rethink eating nightshades.  They contain alkaloids that promote leaky gut syndrome. 

Do look into the Autoimmune Paleo Diet... Dr. Sarah Ballantyne's book explains wonderfully....

https://www.thepaleomom.com/books/the-paleo-approach/

  Hope this helps!

[MADMOM]

2 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

MADMOM,

You mentioned in another post you had baked eggplant with olive oil.  Celiacs can have problems digesting fats.  The gall bladder (on your right side under ribs) secretes bile to help with fat digestion, but Celiacs frequently have gallbladder dysfunction.  Something to ask your doctor about.

Be sure you use quality olive oil, not one that is diluted with corn or soy oil. 

And do rethink eating nightshades.  They contain alkaloids that promote leaky gut syndrome. 

Do look into the Autoimmune Paleo Diet... Dr. Sarah Ballantyne's book explains wonderfully....

https://www.thepaleomom.com/books/the-paleo-approach/

  Hope this helps!

i used extra virgin olive oil and i also had my gallbladder checked a little over a month ago and it looked fine - ii think the seeds were the culprit and having flax seed and tomatoes each day may have been more than my tummy could handle - today is the first day since last week that i feel a whole lot better but i will check into the paleo thing - if your gallbladder dysfunctions does that mean you have to remove it? i certainly don’t want to have that done 

[knitty kitty]

Not necessarily.  A high fat diet, like the Autoimmune Paleo Diet, can help.  Cutting down on processed foods and high carbohydrate foods are also helpful.  

 

[trents]

Since the function of the gall bladder is to produce bile, a substance that helps digest fats, it makes sense to me that a person would want to limit dietary fat if they have gall bladder dysfunction or have had it removed and I think that is also the recommendation of the medical community. There are two types of gall bladder dysfunctions: 1. Stones that clog the bile duct, usually produces much pain, and 2. an inactive, atrophied gall bladder that is not longer producing bile or no longer producing it in sufficient quantities or whose contractions are weak such that they don't push the bile out with sufficient vigor. A third would be a cancerous gall bladder but that is rare.

Gall bladder disease can be difficult to confirm. So if you continue to have that pain under your rib, I would push for more testing. Sometimes they have to do something called a "hida scan."

Edited February 15, 2021 by trents

[knitty kitty]

Well, I found this.... 

"High-Fat Diet Linked to Fewer Gallstones"

https://www.medpagetoday.org/gastroenterology/generalgastroenterology/43474?vpass=1

And....

"Dietary Patterns and Risk of Gallbladder Disease: A Hospital-based Case-Control Study in Adult Women"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4438647/

 

Thiamine is needed to process carbohydrates and fats.  I believe inadequate thiamine starts a cascade of body dysfunction, including gallbladder problems.  

"SIBO, IBS, and Constipation: Unrecognized Thiamine Deficiency?"

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/sibo-ibs-constipation-thiamine-deficiency/

[MADMOM]

45 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

Not necessarily.  A high fat diet, like the Autoimmune Paleo Diet, can help.  Cutting down on processed foods and high carbohydrate foods are also helpful.  

 

yes once i go back to check my celiac levels in a month i wlll def check my gall bladder as well although the ultrasound i had in late december showed no sludge ir stones i’m assuming the pain might be from possible contamination i had this past week - it stopped hurting weeks 2 and 3 and as of today much better - dr says i will still feel discomfort until my body is healing but should be less each month 

[knitty kitty]

MadMom,

Costochondritis is the inflammation of the cartilage where your ribs connect together.  Frequently occurs on left side, but right side, too, sometimes.  

This link explains more...And the treatment is high dose thiamine..... elimination of the problem was seen in three days....

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://austinpublishinggroup.com/nutritional-disorders/fulltext/download.php%3Ffile%3Dandt-v6-id1057.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwix7f2uhv_uAhUNXM0KHai_AOIQFjAAegQIDBAB&usg=AOvVaw0Grw8yML6xgZ8ejg3RvLvO

Edited February 23, 2021 by knitty kitty
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[Dtoc]

On 2/22/2021 at 10:32 PM, knitty kitty said:

MadMom,

Costochondritis is the inflammation of the cartilage where your ribs connect together.  Frequently occurs on left side, but right side, too, sometimes.  

This link explains more...And the treatment is high dose thiamine..... elimination of the problem was seen in three days....

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://austinpublishinggroup.com/nutritional-disorders/fulltext/download.php%3Ffile%3Dandt-v6-id1057.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwix7f2uhv_uAhUNXM0KHai_AOIQFjAAegQIDBAB&usg=AOvVaw0Grw8yML6xgZ8ejg3RvLvO

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