Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

I Am Totally Confused Now!


KC33

Recommended Posts

KC33 Newbie

I posted here before a few weeks ago about a blood test and symptoms. I have had diarrhea almost daily (and several times at that) since the birth of my 2nd and last child in 2000. It started immediately after her birth. I also had a tubal done at the same time. I suffered from diarrhea usually instantly after eating, but sometimes for no reason (maybe just a sip of water). Exactly one year later I had emergency gall bladder sugery (several stones and 3 attacks in one week). Then I really had a problem. No more travel. It was an adventure just to get to the store and back. I had to starve for a minimum of 2 hours if I planned to go anywhere and no eating until I had returned. The cramps were unbelievable. I also suffered migraines during this time (no previous history with them). I also had several other things going that would suggest celiac. Finally in May, my GP ordered a celiac test. It came back weak positive. I came here and researched this thing to death and was sure I had my answer. I wrote down all the recommended tests and took them to him and requested they be done. He was more than glad to help. Everything on there came back negative (and I mean a LOW negative), except the IgA-it showed a weak positive of 23. I decided to do some more reading and researching before committing to the GFD (already had a colonscopy once and not eager for the endo). I forgot to mention that in the last 4 years I have eaten anything I wanted and never gained a lb. Actually due to 3 different flare-ups that cost me 2-3 lbs each time, I had lost almost 10 lbs. I had never gained a lb. Once lost, it would stay off-due to the constant diarrhea I'm sure. However, in the last 2-3 weeks, the symptoms have lessened and gotten farther apart. Now, I am almost 1 week totally symptom free. No headaches, no diarrhea, and I've gained 4 lbs! There are no cramps, no reactions, no nothing. What in the world is going on? If this is celiac, does someone who shows 'classic' symptoms from the beginning of onset of the disease for 4 years suddenly become a 'silent' celiac? And if it isn't celiac what is it? And why are my IgA levels showing a weak positive? I am at a loss here. I have never heard of celiac symptoms just disappearing after years. Can anyone help me out here? Any suggestions would be more than welcolmed!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GEF Explorer

Truly the endoscopy was A LOT (at least for me) easier than the colonoscopy... there wasn't much prep and you really don't remember much from the procedure. I know it's difficult when you don't have an answer to why you're symptomatic, but just keep asking your doctor. It's better to rule it in/out than to wonder and possibly endanger yourself.

For me, the most celiac-positive-related antibodies I tested negative for, but like you I have at least one showing up in my blood. My IGA was 23 (like you), but my IGG was positive. Still with those two, it's still inconclusive, since my endo & colonscopy biopsies were normal. If I were in your shoes, I'd get the endo. I don't believe that antibodies show up for no reason, but I'm not a doctor.

Good luck!

Gretchen

kalo Rookie

I don't have answers for you but if I were you I would go to enterolabs.com and do their stool test. It's fairly reliable and you would know for sure. I know how frustrating it is to not know.

KC33 Newbie

I thought I needed to correct something I said in my original post. My IgA was NOT positive. It was negative (8), it was my IgG that had a weak positive (23). I know this might change things. I am almost sure several other things could cause a positive on the IgG. Thanks!

GEF Explorer

KC, that's all I had for a year or so, then the IGA showed up. Yes, there are other conditions that can cause the IGG elevation, but the important thing is to not be disuaded to pursue an answer.... you are obviously experiencing symtoms and need an answer to that.

My next step is some more tests, my wedding (at which I've already bought a very expensive and probably toxic cake), and then I'm going gluten free! :D Best test for inconclusive blood tests would be "the diet"!

Good luck!

Gretchen

KC33 Newbie

Thank you so much for the reply. The only problem I would have doing the gluten free diet is that I have been TOTALLY symptom free for 3 weeks now! I keep waiting for something to happen, but it doesn't. I have changed nothing in my diet whatsoever (which accounts for the gained lbs!). I am taking no medication, doing nothing different at all. I used to have daily headaches, dry mouth, daily diarrhea (multiple times), and had lost 10 lbs in 4 yrs. Now I have nothing. The headaches, dry mouth, diarrhea-it's all gone. No cramps, no rumbles, nothing. That is why I am so confused. If I have celiac, how can the symptoms just disappear? With no diet change or no medication? I can't find anything on the

internet that comes even remotely close to explaining this. Anyone with a theory?

I should also mention that in 4 years time, I have never had more than 1 day without an 'episode'.

GEF Explorer

I don't know... I'm sure some here could explain your lack of symptoms in relation to celiac... I guess it all depends on what you eat, how much of it and how sensitive you are. I'm curious though, has your doctor ruled out IBD (inflamatory bowel disease).. .ie: Crohn's, etc? Those with IBD experience flare-ups and can go for time with / without symptoms. I've read that IGG's are frequently elevated in relation to IBD's. Just thought I'd mention that.

Gretchen


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



KC33 Newbie

Wow, thanks for that info! I have been searching for anything I could think of on the net that associated IgG and non-celiac disease. I had a colonoscopy about 1 yr into this and it showed nothing, so my GI said 'IBS'. I will definitely research IBD and see if maybe that could be a possibility. Thank you so much! :)

GEF Explorer

There must be 1/2 dozen or more tests that are needed to fully explore the intestinal tract.... anything from x-rays to scopes to cameras. Crohn's is usually in the small intestines and ulcerative colitis is in the large. To explore the small intestine where Crohn's usually is you'd probably need a small bowel x-ray (you drink some chalky substance called barium and then they x-ray you)... a colonoscopy won't reach. I've still got to get this ruled out myself... maybe in a month or so.

Good luck to you and you're welcome.. I could only hope to be as helpful as so many are here.. I'm just sharing what I've learned :)

Gretchen

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to Paulaannefthimiou's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Bob red mill gluten free oats

    2. - trents replied to jenniber's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      10

      Disaccharide deficient, confusing biopsy results, no blood test

    3. - Paulaannefthimiou posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Bob red mill gluten free oats

    4. - jenniber replied to jenniber's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      10

      Disaccharide deficient, confusing biopsy results, no blood test

    5. - trents replied to SamAlvi's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,849
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jadelucia
    Newest Member
    Jadelucia
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Not necessarily. The "Gluten Free" label means not more than 20ppm of gluten in the product which is often not enough for super sensitive celiacs. You would need to be looking for "Certified Gluten Free" (GFCO endorsed) which means no more than 10ppm of gluten. Having said that, "Gluten Free" doesn't mean that there will necessarily be more gluten than "Certified Gluten" in any given batch run. It just means there could be. 
    • trents
      I think it is wise to seek a second opinion from a GI doc and to go on a gluten free diet in the meantime. The GI doc may look at all the evidence, including the biopsy report, and conclude you don't need anything else to reach a dx of celiac disease and so, there would be no need for a gluten challenge. But if the GI doc does want to do more testing, you can worry about the gluten challenge at that time. But between now and the time of the appointment, if your symptoms improve on a gluten free diet, that is more evidence. Just keep in mind that if a gluten challenge is called for, the bare minimum challenge length is two weeks of the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten, which is about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread. But, I would count on giving it four weeks to be sure.
    • Paulaannefthimiou
      Are Bobresmill gluten free oats ok for sensitive celiacs?
    • jenniber
      thank you both for the insights. i agree, im going to back off on dairy and try sucraid. thanks for the tip about protein powder, i will look for whey protein powder/drinks!   i don’t understand why my doctor refused to order it either. so i’ve decided i’m not going to her again, and i’m going to get a second opinion with a GI recommended to me by someone with celiac. unfortunately my first appointment isn’t until February 17th. do you think i should go gluten free now or wait until after i meet with the new doctor? i’m torn about what i should do, i dont know if she is going to want to repeat the endoscopy, and i know ill have to be eating gluten to have a positive biopsy. i could always do the gluten challenge on the other hand if she does want to repeat the biopsy.    thanks again, i appreciate the support here. i’ve learned a lot from these boards. i dont know anyone in real life with celiac.
    • trents
      Let me suggest an adjustment to your terminology. "Celiac disease" and "gluten intolerance" are the same. The other gluten disorder you refer to is NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) which is often referred to as being "gluten sensitive". Having said that, the reality is there is still much inconsistency in how people use these terms. Since celiac disease does damage to the small bowel lining it often results in nutritional deficiencies such as anemia. NCGS does not damage the small bowel lining so your history of anemia may suggest you have celiac disease as opposed to NCGS. But either way, a gluten-free diet is in order. NCGS can cause bodily damage in other ways, particularly to neurological systems.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.