Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Abnormal Results


Live2BWell

Recommended Posts

Live2BWell Enthusiast

So I've been playing the yo-yo game with doctors. It's quite frustrating, to say the least. Not only that, but many of my results always come back abnormal [but when I address it, it gets shrugged off as not a big deal OR, in the current case, I have gotten no explination whatsoever.] I have tried to get additonal tests ordered, but I am assured the tests they are ordering are the ones necessary and capable of diagnosing what's wrong with me, but I wonder if they really are! Over the span on 2 years, I have finally been diagnosed with Hashimotos and Insulin Resistance - yet I am not getting better, infact I have been getting sicker [despite treatment.] Most recently I have parasites, I have a history of H-Pylori, and I have blood in my stool [i see a new doctor one Wednesday, so I want to have a feel for what I should ask, what is and is not relevant in being properly treated, and what could possibly be just a waste of my breath.]

So the tests I have had [in regards to bloodwork/antibodies and GI tests] ~ which really I have no idea if they have any relevance to possibly having Celiac, or gluten sensitivity, or food allergies, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway ;)

I had an esophogram and an esophogeal motility test which were both abnormal, showing reflux, below normal LES pressure (lower esophogeal sphincter). My esophogeal motility was "ineffective" and my "bolus transit" was moderately impaired. As for my bloodwork, my thyroid antibodies were high (however they apparently tested for everything, and no other antibodies came back abnormal). My WBC's and Hematocrit were elevated, my carbon dioxide was low and my eosinophils were low.

Doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot to me, but maybe it means something I just dont have knowlege about?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Rebecca's mom Rookie

Dear Live2BWell,

If you have been diagnosed w/Hashimoto's, there is an EXTREMELY high chance that you have Celiac Disease, as well - the numbers definitely show a correlation between the two conditions. In all of the tests that you mentioned, I don't recall seeing any results for IgA, IgG, tTG, or EMA. If you want to be tested for Celiac, your doctor will have to SPECIFICALLY state that he/she wants a Celiac Panel/Screen done - it isn't a standard component of a CBC.

There is a lot of information on the web about Hashimoto's and Celiac; if your doctor doesn't seem like he/she wants to do a Celiac test, just take some of the info that you find to their office. If you do have Celiac, NOTHING is going to get better unless you first get gluten out of your system. Once the gluten is gone, your body will be able to get its nutrients from the food that you are eating, rather than from the other parts of your body. Once your body stops pulling stuff from your other systems, you may find that other health problems start clearing up.

Where in Texas do you live? We are in Fort Worth. Our youngest daughter (age 7) is the one that was diagnosed with celiac disease 2 months ago. She has Down syndrome, so she was at a significantly higher risk of developing celiac disease. We went ahead and got the rest of the family tested (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) - the other 2 daughters still at home tested negative, as did I, but my husband has some "inconclusive" test results; his numbers fall in a grey area. It is possible that his numbers have been compromised because he has been eating some gluten-free food here at the house - he goes out for lunch at work, so he is still getting SOME gluten. Maybe if he was eating gluten at every meal, he would have had higher numbers on his bloodwork (he just got tested 2 weeks ago). Our oldest daughter is away at college, so she hasn't gotten tested yet. It was much easier for us to go gluten-free at home, and after reading some of the things on celiac disease, I was convinced that I had it. Once I started eating gluten-free, the difference was nothing short of amazing! I don't care if my results said that I don't have celiac disease, I am convinced that I am gluten-sensitive, at the very least.

Be sure and have your blood drawn before you go gluten-free; otherwise, you could get inaccurate results. Good luck with everything, and feel free to contact me if you want to talk.

Teresa Koch

Fort Worth, Texas

Live2BWell Enthusiast

Thanks, Teresa!

I was originally Dx with "Pre-Diabetes" (shortly after I had my wisdom teeth out) and told that my thyroid levels were "a bit off but nothing to be concerned about." I began feeling a little better after I was put on medication for the insulin resistance, however after I had my tonsilectomy, my life (and my health) completely fell apart. After being Dx with hashimotos several months back, I have started seeing a new doctor at Baylor (I had been completely appaled at the other doctors and their haste to write me off rather than stick with me to help me.) The appointment went well, and I am feeling a bit better about the way in which the course of my treatment is going for the thyroiditis.

As for Gluten and/or food allergies, I have not had any tests specifically for Celiac (although I have had other tests for autoimmune disorders, and am told that they are all normal, and I had general skin-prick tests for allergies which were also normal) I can post the bloodwork tests I have had and my results (the tests I posted originally were just the ones that read not in the normal range.)

I have an appointment on Monday afternoon with the GI specialist at Baylor, and I see my new doctor again in 5 weeks (for the Hashimotos.)

Thanks again :)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
If you have been diagnosed w/Hashimoto's, there is an EXTREMELY high chance that you have Celiac Disease,

This is true if you are genetically susceptible to Celiac Disease. If not....then the chances of you having Celiac are on the other end....extremely low (or impossible). The only way to know is to be tested.

You *can* be gluten intolerant without having Celiac Disease. A large percentage of those who are intolerant to gluten actually do not have Celiac....but some other underlying condition which has led to gluten intolerance (as well as additional food intolerances).

Have your Dr. order the Celiac panel....its important that all of the tests are run.

Anti-Gliadin (AGA) IgA

Anti-Gliadin (AGA) IgG

Anti-Endomysial (EMA) IgA

Anti-Tissue Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA

Total Serum IgA

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,196
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jen Fleming
    Newest Member
    Jen Fleming
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      Please read: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-steps-improve-gluten-ingredient-disclosure-foods?fbclid=IwY2xjawPeXhJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzaDc3NWRaYzlJOFJ4R0Fic3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrwuSsw8Be7VNGOrKKWFVbrjmf59SGht05nIALwnjQ0DoGkDDK1doRBDzeeX_aem_GZcRcbhisMTyFUp3YMUU9Q
    • cristiana
      Hi @Atl222 As @trents points out, there could be many reasons for this biopsy result.  I am interested to know, is your gastroenterologist concerned?  Also, are your blood tests showing steady improvement over the years? I remember when I had my last biopsy, several years after diagnosis, mine came back with with raised lymphocytes but no villous damage, too! In my own case, my consultant wasn't remotely concerned - in fact, he said I might still get this result even if all I ever did was eat nothing but rice and water.   My coeliac blood tests were still steadily improving, albeit slowly, which was reassuring.
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @Atl222! Yes, your increased lymphocytes could be in response to oats or it could possibly be cross contamination from gluten that is getting into your diet from some unexpected source but not enough to damage the villi. And I'm certain that increased lymphocytes can be caused by other things besides celiac disease or gluten/oats exposure. See attachment. But you might try eliminating oats to start with and possibly dairy for a few months and then seek another endoscopy/biopsy to see if there was a reduction in lymphocyte counts. 
    • Scott Adams
      This is a solid, well-reasoned approach. You’re right that “koji” by itself doesn’t indicate gluten status, and the risk really does come down to which grain is used to culture it. The fact that you directly contacted Eden Foods and received a clear statement that their koji is made from rice only, with no wheat or barley, is meaningful due diligence—especially since Eden has a long-standing reputation for transparency. While the lack of gluten labeling can understandably give pause, manufacturer confirmation like this is often what people rely on for traditionally fermented products. As always, trusting your body after trying it is reasonable, but based on the information you gathered, your conclusion makes sense.
    • Scott Adams
      Seven months can still be early in celiac healing, especially if you were mostly asymptomatic to begin with—symptoms like low iron, vitamin D deficiency, nail changes, and hair issues often take much longer to improve because the gut needs time to recover before absorption normalizes. A tTG-IgA of 69 is not “low” in terms of immune activity, and it can take 12–24 months (sometimes longer) for antibodies and the intestinal lining to fully heal, particularly in teens and young adults. Eating gluten again to “test” things isn’t recommended and won’t give you clear answers—it’s far more likely to cause harm than clarity. Weight not changing is also very common in celiac and doesn’t rule anything out. Please know that your frustration and sadness matter; this adjustment is hard, and feeling stuck can really affect mental health. You deserve support, and if you can, reaching out to a GI dietitian or mental health professional familiar with chronic illness could really help you through this phase. This study indicates that a majority of celiacs don't recover until 5 years after diagnosis and starting a gluten-free diet: Mucosal recovery and mortality in adults with celiac disease after treatment with a gluten-free diet However, it's also possible that what the study really shows is the difficulty in maintaining a 100% gluten-free diet. I suspect that if you looked closely at the diets of those who did not recover within 2 years might be that their diets were not 100% gluten-free. Perhaps they ate out more often, or didn't understand all of the hidden ingredients where gluten can hide. Either way, it shows how difficult recovery from celiac disease can be for most people. According to this study: This article explores other causes of flattened villi:    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.