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Had To Go Completely Gluten Free Due To Dh...have Some Questions. Please Help!


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labsr4me2 Rookie

Recently I had to go COMPLETELY gluten free due to DH. I had to get rid of my laundry soap, make up, shampoo, conditioner, deoderant, etc. I had to replace everything with gluten free products.

Is this common?

I am so super sensitive that I am now afraid to even touch people out of fear that they do not use gluten-free products.

I went to a party yesterday and gave some people hugs (I did not wash my hands afterwards) and then I ate my gluten free protein bar and an Ensure (same thing I eat every evening). I got sick. Are my fears correct? Could I really be that sensitive that I must wash between EVERYTHING (even shaking hands or hugging)?

I am afraid to go out in public right now do to me being so sensitive.

I am also wondering if I REALLY am this sensitive....would sex with my spouse who eats gluten being a contamination due to gluten in his system?


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I don't have DH myself, but I will try to answer some of your questions.

Some folks with DH are sensitive to skin contact with gluten. This may be limited to those with active DH, where the lesions allow the gluten to penetrate. It seems that normal, healthy skin is impermeable to gluten.

I work in contact with the public, and my business sells some products which contain gluten. I wash my hands frequently, and always wash thoroughly before eating at work. I am less obsessive at home, since our home is 100% gluten-free.

Gluten is not present in bodily fluids and secretions, even if the person eats gluten. Perspiration, saliva, and other secretions of interest to your last question are gluten-free. However, although saliva itself is gluten-free, gluten can be introduced into saliva in the mouth as a result of the person having consumed gluten recently. A thorough brushing of the teeth is a good idea before engaging in open-mouth kissing.

There is some debate about whether breast milk can contain gluten from the mother's diet, but I don't think that is a concern for you. ;)

Krysten Newbie

I had a situation where I used hand soap in a bathroom & got sick hours later since there was still residue on my hand even though I had washed them again at home with my safe soap. Recently, I saw a friend of mine have a reaction on her cheek after hugging a friend & we figured it was either the friend's makeup or a hair care product that caused the reaction. So I understand your fear. I try to bring a bar of my own soap to wash in between shaking hands and try to avoid getting too close when I hug someone. Sometimes I feel like maybe I'm being paranoid, but every time I let my guard down I get sick, so now I just try to be as careful as I can. But it's particularly hard with women since they have lotion on their hands, hair pomade, etc.

labsr4me2 Rookie

Thank you. I was starting to feel like it was just me. I did buy some clorox wipes for the house and some for my purse. Just in case I am unable to get to soap after an encounter.

I just call myself "Monk" now when ever I go any where. Hahaha.

I am glad to know that others are experiencing these same things (not that I would wish them on anyone) but I am glad that I am not the only one. :D

Krysten Newbie

Elisabeth Hasselbeck's new book made me feel better, too because she talks about how careful you have to be especially with cross contamination. I had a big improvement when I changed to gluten-free beauty products--shampoos, etc. And Elisabeth talks about how she got sick after gluten-free hairspray was used on her & she was in a cloud of it. So many things I didn't think about! Yeah, it's scary, but you are not alone ;)

Thank you. I was starting to feel like it was just me. I did buy some clorox wipes for the house and some for my purse. Just in case I am unable to get to soap after an encounter.

I just call myself "Monk" now when ever I go any where. Hahaha.

I am glad to know that others are experiencing these same things (not that I would wish them on anyone) but I am glad that I am not the only one. :D

lovegrov Collaborator

EXTREMELY unusual and makes me wonder whether there's something else happening. I had DH for more than 20 years and I can touch gluten all day long with no reaction as long as I wash.

As said before, secretions of whatever sort do NOT contain gluten.

richard

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lkonya Newbie
Recently I had to go COMPLETELY gluten free due to DH. I had to get rid of my laundry soap, make up, shampoo, conditioner, deoderant, etc. I had to replace everything with gluten free products.

Is this common?

I am so super sensitive that I am now afraid to even touch people out of fear that they do not use gluten-free products.

I went to a party yesterday and gave some people hugs (I did not wash my hands afterwards) and then I ate my gluten free protein bar and an Ensure (same thing I eat every evening). I got sick. Are my fears correct? Could I really be that sensitive that I must wash between EVERYTHING (even shaking hands or hugging)?

I am afraid to go out in public right now do to me being so sensitive.

I am also wondering if I REALLY am this sensitive....would sex with my spouse who eats gluten being a contamination due to gluten in his system?

Hello, I am Celiac and I also have thyroid disease as well as DH. The sensitivity you are experiencing is very common with DH. The good news is that in time the DH will become less severe and alot of it will go totally away and stay away if you stay allergen free and take your iron (if you are anemic which I am assuming you are) AND you must be on a very good Vitamin B source...the Vitamin B must be a multiple B complex of all the B's. Alot of my DH is gone approximately 80% of it and I am looking forward to the rest of it leaving as well...it took about 8 months of being allergen free and taking the vitamins (which I take a good rotation of many). Try not to get discouraged, it will just take time. The sensitivity also gets better the longer you remain allergen-free. Just try not to let other people talk you into eating or touching things you shouldn't have...if you have a question about it, DON'T ingest it or put it on your skin. I have to use everything totally allergen free. I am allergic to wheat, gluten, soy, yeast, and eggs. I have a one year old that is allergic to all of those and more. We watch everything we do. It will take about 6-8 months for your system to calm down and you will notice over time that the DH will go away. Good luck and please do not hesitate to shoot me an email if you like. Linda


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