Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Will The Vaccine In Development Also Help Autistics?


CGally81

Recommended Posts

CGally81 Enthusiast

It's been discovered in recent years that the autistic brain converts gluten into an opiate, essentially meaning that if we eat the stuff, we're unwittingly taking drugs. I do remember having behavior control problems as a kid, and social problems most of my life, feeling as if I "had" to do or say certain things, kind of in the way that, for instance, Tourettes' sufferers feel like they have to do things involuntarily. Body movements or outbursts, stuff like that.

Well, gluten's essentially been a drug to me, and I didn't realize it. I even suffered the same withdrawal symptoms I'm suffering now after going gluten-free, at one point in my senior year of high school. Muscle twitching, chills in my legs and forehead, itchiness, and other stuff. I may have reduced the amount of gluten in my diet without realizing it, and suffered withdrawal at the time, not from having celiac (unless it was in an early asymptomatic form, capable of causing withdrawal), but from autism.

After suffering overt symptoms of celiac starting in March 2009, gluten went from being a drug to being a poison. A vaccine is in development that is far enough along that it has entered phase 1 testing, and has proven effective on mice. It is to make the body tolerate gluten so the autoimmune response will not occur.

That will help celiacs tremendously, and will prevent me from having to worry about a stray bread crumb in my butter or random CC with foods that I wouldn't have expected it from.

But do you think it will help autistics? After all, it targets only the autoimmune response (which is, of course, the number 1 problem for us celiacs!). It doesn't necessarily do anything to change how our brain processes gluten.

I still plan to get that vaccine immediately whenever it is finished and available to the public. But after that, I intend to stay 99% gluten-free anyway, other than maybe the once-a-year birthday cake or something. I'd instead just be glad that CC would no longer be a terrible ordeal for me. Still, if it doesn't help autistics with the "gluten -> opiates" response, then I'd have even more reason to stay gluten-free after taking it.

What do you think, or know, about the vaccine regards autism, and what do you know about gluten and autism?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ang1e0251 Contributor

I think I would research the team doing the work on the vaccine and e-mail them for a direct response to your questions.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

I second angle's suggestion above.

I also wanted to suggest that you read Lisa Lewis's Special Diets For Special Kids. This is a book by the parent of an autistic child, and I think you'd gain even more understanding of the whole gluten-casein-autism connection, as well as recipe ideas (there are a ton of very good recipes), support possibilities, and above all, another perspective.

You might be interested to note that I had taken my autistic son off gluten and dairy (before I knew much about it). I took him off dairy when he'd only tried it twice (he was a little over a year old), because it gave him severe diarrhea. I added it in nearly a year later, a tiny bit at a time, and we didn't see any change, so we thought he was okay.

We did the same with gluten when he was 5 (again, not knowing anything about it--this was years ago).

The trouble is, just because he didn't react when we added it back in slowly didn't mean that it was okay for him. Apparently, it DID harm him over a long period of time.

Now, just because that was true for him doesn't mean that it will be true for you. But I thought you might like to know of our experience, in case it might help you.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - olivia11 replied to olivia11's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      suggest gluten free food

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

    3. - knitty kitty replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      17

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    4. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      17

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,748
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    NYC Sidewalk Repair
    Newest Member
    NYC Sidewalk Repair
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • olivia11
      Thanks I am mostly looking for everyday staples and easy meal ideas nothing too specialty if possible.
    • knitty kitty
      There are other Celiac genes. HLA DQ 2 and HLA DQ 8 show up in people from Northern European descent.   People of Mediterranean descent have HLA DQ 7.  People of Asian descent have HLA DQ 9.   There's other Indigenous populations that have other HLA genes that code for Celiac disease.   Are you still having symptoms?   What do you include in your diet?  Are you vegetarian? Are you taking any prescription medication?  Omeprazole?  Metformin?   Do you have anemia?  Thyroid problems? Are you taking any vitamins or herbal supplements?  
    • knitty kitty
      There are eight essential B vitamins.  They are all water soluble.  Any excess of B vitamins is easily excreted by the kidneys.   Thiamine is Vitamin B 1.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Benfotiamine and TTFD are forms of Thiamine that the body can utilize very easily.   The form of Thiamine in the supplements you mentioned is Thiamine Mononitrate, a form that the body does not absorb well and does not utilize well.  Only about thirty percent of the amount on the label is actually absorbed in the small intestine.  Less than that can actually be used by the body.  Manufacturers add thiamine mononitrate to their products because it's cheap and shelf-stable.  Thiamine and other B vitamins break down when exposed to light and heat and over time.  Thiamine Mononitrate is a form that does not break down over time sitting on a shelf waiting for someone to buy them.  What makes Thiamine Mononitrate shelf stable makes it difficult for the body to turn into a useable form.  In fact, it takes more thiamine to turn it into a useable form.   Gastrointestinal Beriberi is a localized shortage of Thiamine in the gastrointestinal tract.  High carbohydrate meals can result in gastrointestinal symptoms of Gastric Beriberi.  Fiber is a type of carbohydrate.  So, high fiber/carbohydrate snacks could trigger Gastric Beriberi.   Since blood tests for Thiamine and other B vitamins are so inaccurate, the World Health Organization recommends trying Thiamine and looking for health improvement because it's safe and nontoxic.  
    • xxnonamexx
      Thanks very interesting I have to see if I should take these 2 vitamins along with my multi and super Vit B complex or if its too much or would hurt me. I don't have any other health issues but would love to see if this improves anything especially to feel stronger build muscle.
    • Roses8721
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.