Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Inconclusive Endoscopy?


fattycat

Recommended Posts

fattycat Rookie

I really hope I can get some advice! I'm currently living in South Korea where celiac disease is all but nonexistent. I've had food/stomach problems most of my life but really started to get sick about 10 years ago. Vitamin deficiency (resulting in hair loss!), reactive hypoglycemia, chronic loose bowels, undigested food, exhaustion, rash on cheeks that never went away, gas, bloating, unexplained weight loss and gain, etc. In 2005 I had a protein allergy chip done and it showed that I had a mild gluten intolerance and the doctor did a blood test for celiac that came back negative.

I had had loose bowel movements for about 2 years but this summer I started having green bowel movements. In October I suddenly broke out in hives over most of my body. Regular antihistamines didn


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



shopgirl Contributor

I'm wondering, could eating gluten free (a couple of cheat meals) for a month and a half have affected my results? How much damage is necessary for a diagnosis?

It absolutely could, and probably, did effect your results. People going through the testing are required to continue eating gluten daily right up until the day of the test. Going gluten-free for a week could effect your results. Your doctor was wrong. Generally someone who's been gluten-free for any length of time is put on a gluten challenge before testing to make sure their tests are accurate. If you want to be re-tested, you'd have to do at least a few weeks of gluten to get a more accurate diagnosis.

cassP Contributor

with your symptoms, and your "mild gluten intolerance", and your mild damage in biopsy- i would assume you have Celiac or NonCeliac Gluten Intolerance- they're both BAD if you continue to eat gluten.

it's up to you whether or not you need a diagnosis to motivate u to stay on the diet- and like above poster said- you have to be eating enough gluten before testing.

it's not well known in asia- because the diet is not very westernized- so i dont think the disease is triggered as much- but a recent study DID show that asians do have some gluten intolerance (cant remember if it was antibodies or genes tested)- but it was somewhere around 15 or 20%

continuing to eat gluten can lead to any number of autoimmune diseases and destruction of different organs... including the brain, thyroid, colon, liver, etc....

good luck & stay on top of this !

fattycat Rookie

I spoke with the doctor today. He said that he did a biopsy of 10 samples (not sure how spread out they were) and that there was some damage. He agreed that eating gluten free may have affected the results but he doesnt really want to do another endoscopy. He wants me to continue to take the probiotics, antacids and medication to stop loose bowels for a month and to just try not eating gluten and then eat gluten to see what happens. He said that a diagnosis of celiac isnt important. What is important is if I feel better not eating gluten or not. And then come back in a month. :unsure:

I think I feel better...not 100% sure. When I eat gluten I dont feel sick right away. It seems like a day or two later I generally feel unwell for several days. Tired, headache, sore muscles, difficulty sleeping, problems concentrating, frequent urination, blood sugar issues, etc. And when I dont eat gluten I still have digestion problems unless I take the medication. When I stop the medication I basically stop digesting food. Most of my symptoms seem to be related to malabsorption. If only I instantly vomited each time I ate gluten! :blink:

cassP Contributor

healing while going gluten free takes time- you cannot judge every reaction & nonreaction in the first month-

it can take AT LEAST a month to normalize and not have reactions... in fact during this transitional period- you could have gluten like reactions to almost anything including water.

i hope you go gluten free.. i think the damage in the biopsies is proof enough.. but your doc is right- whether it's Celiac or NonCeliac- your body is gluten intolerant.

hope u feel better soon :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      18

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    2. - olivia11 replied to olivia11's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      suggest gluten free food

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

    4. - knitty kitty replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      18

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    5. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      18

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,754
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Brmorrison74
    Newest Member
    Brmorrison74
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      I looked further into Thiamax Vitamin B1 by objective nutrients and read all the great reviews. I think I will give this a try. I noticed only possible side affect is possibly the first week so body adjusts. Life Extensions carries Benfotiamine with Thiamine and the mega one you mentioned. Not sure if both in one is better or seperate. some reviews state a laxative affect as side affect. SHould I take with my super B complex or just these 2 and multivitamin? I will do further research but I appreciate the wonderful explanation you provided on Thiamine.
    • olivia11
      Thanks I am mostly looking for everyday staples and easy meal ideas nothing too specialty if possible.
    • knitty kitty
      There are other Celiac genes. HLA DQ 2 and HLA DQ 8 show up in people from Northern European descent.   People of Mediterranean descent have HLA DQ 7.  People of Asian descent have HLA DQ 9.   There's other Indigenous populations that have other HLA genes that code for Celiac disease.   Are you still having symptoms?   What do you include in your diet?  Are you vegetarian? Are you taking any prescription medication?  Omeprazole?  Metformin?   Do you have anemia?  Thyroid problems? Are you taking any vitamins or herbal supplements?  
    • knitty kitty
      There are eight essential B vitamins.  They are all water soluble.  Any excess of B vitamins is easily excreted by the kidneys.   Thiamine is Vitamin B 1.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Benfotiamine and TTFD are forms of Thiamine that the body can utilize very easily.   The form of Thiamine in the supplements you mentioned is Thiamine Mononitrate, a form that the body does not absorb well and does not utilize well.  Only about thirty percent of the amount on the label is actually absorbed in the small intestine.  Less than that can actually be used by the body.  Manufacturers add thiamine mononitrate to their products because it's cheap and shelf-stable.  Thiamine and other B vitamins break down when exposed to light and heat and over time.  Thiamine Mononitrate is a form that does not break down over time sitting on a shelf waiting for someone to buy them.  What makes Thiamine Mononitrate shelf stable makes it difficult for the body to turn into a useable form.  In fact, it takes more thiamine to turn it into a useable form.   Gastrointestinal Beriberi is a localized shortage of Thiamine in the gastrointestinal tract.  High carbohydrate meals can result in gastrointestinal symptoms of Gastric Beriberi.  Fiber is a type of carbohydrate.  So, high fiber/carbohydrate snacks could trigger Gastric Beriberi.   Since blood tests for Thiamine and other B vitamins are so inaccurate, the World Health Organization recommends trying Thiamine and looking for health improvement because it's safe and nontoxic.  
    • xxnonamexx
      Thanks very interesting I have to see if I should take these 2 vitamins along with my multi and super Vit B complex or if its too much or would hurt me. I don't have any other health issues but would love to see if this improves anything especially to feel stronger build muscle.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.