Carnivor Beef-Based Protein Powder

[Philadelphia]

Has anyone here had any experience with beef-based protein powders? Specifically, I'm looking at Carnivor by MuscleMedsRX. I'd love to hear any comments people have. This contains Creatine Monohydrate, which I've read is the one that wont wreck your stomach, according to the people in this forum.

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Ingredients:

CARNIVOR-BPI (Hydrolyzed Beef Protein Isolate)

Creatine monohydrate

BCAAs (Leucine, L-Valine, L-Isoleucine)

GKG (Glutamine Alpha-Ketoglutarate)

OKG (Ornithine-alpha-ketoglutarate)

AKG (alpha-ketoglutarate)

KIC (alpha-ketoisocaproate)

Hydrolyzed Gelatin, Maltodextrin, Lecithin, Citric Acid

Natural and Artificial Flavor, Acesulfame Potassium, FD&C Blue #1, Sucralose

---> Lactose Free, Cholesterol Free, Fat Free

I called the company and they said that there are no gluten-containing ingredients in there, but that they cannot advertise it as gluten free due to the factory also making other protein powders, so there is a risk of cross-contamination. It seems like a cover-your-ass statement to me. I have not tried it yet, but as I'm looking for a protein supplement that also has a little creatine, I'm willing to roll the dice and give this a try. If it bugs me, I'll obviously not take it again.

I'm a 29 year old male. I'm thin at 6'1" - 160 pounds, having slowly lost 15-20 over the last few years due to not being able to eat properly. Now that I'm gluten-free, I'm looking to get up to a goal weight of about 180. I'm currently restarting the P90X workout again, which yielded me very good results the first time around. Hopefully I can find a supplement to help me gain some of my weight back.

Thanks everyone!

[GlutenGladi8or]

Now that I'm gluten-free, I'm looking to get up to a goal weight of about 180. I'm currently restarting the P90X workout again, which yielded me very good results the first time around. Hopefully I can find a supplement to help me gain some of my weight back.

Thanks everyone!

Although I really like gluten-free protein powders (before/after workouts & during the day), don't rely on shakes to provide the building blocks for muscle growth. Instead, make sure that you are getting LEAN animal protein with every meal.

Examples:

Breakfast:

Egg white omelet with an all natural chicken sausage (less than one gram of fat)

Lunch:

A whole pack of low fat & all natural turkey breast (eat it with a knife and fork like a steak!)

Dinner:

Trimmed pork tenderloin or trimmed flank steak (both with single digit fat content per serving)

Bed time snack:

Low Fat cottage cheese or Non Fat Greek yogurt

It really works.

PS - Shakes are good for in between snacks.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[GlutenGladi8or]

PS - Don't forget to load up each meal with plenty of fruits and vegetables. Also, add some good gluten-free carbs (organic brown rice, quinoa, black beans, etc.) with each meal.

[chasbari]

I am going to go against the grain here a bit and say that I have added the fats back into my diet to good effect. I am very lean now after having gone grain free and find that my workout recovery and lean tissue gain are enhanced by eating whole eggs and fats on things like the prime rib I had last night. In fact, I used to hate fat when I was eating so many glutens and now I seem to enjoy it. I am, of course, now under the influence of the movie "Fathead" but had been eating this way before I ever saw it. I can't argue, however, with Glutengldi8or's results. Fresh fruits and produce without a lot of processing will always be the best choice.

CS

[GlutenGladi8or]

I am going to go against the grain here a bit and say that I have added the fats back into my diet to good effect. I am very lean now after having gone grain free and find that my workout recovery and lean tissue gain are enhanced by eating whole eggs and fats on things like the prime rib I had last night. In fact, I used to hate fat when I was eating so many glutens and now I seem to enjoy it. I am, of course, now under the influence of the movie "Fathead" but had been eating this way before I ever saw it. I can't argue, however, with Glutengldi8or's results. Fresh fruits and produce without a lot of processing will always be the best choice.

CS

Good insights on fat and FRESH PRODUCE (unprocessed and preferably all natural). And, don't discount the awesome frozen fruits and vegetables as well.

What a lot of people don't understand is that you need fat to build muscle. It's true. That's why I try to eat a little more fat in the winter and then go lean, lean, lean just as the winter is starting to thaw.

[chasbari]

Agreed on the frozen fruits and veggies. Plain and simple and cheap throughout the year as well. It's all about reasonable balance. I think that carbs are maybe the worst thing when trying to gain lean mass. It almost seems like I crave fats when I have been hit by something in my diet. Seems to make recovery happen more quickly.

CS

[GlutenGladi8or]

. I think that carbs are maybe the worst thing when trying to gain lean mass.

Don't discount a good carb bulk about 45 minutes prior to a work out. I opt for gluten free oats + fresh blueberries/raspberries + teaspoon of PURE maple syrup.

About 15 minutes after you eat that, hit the pre-work out protein shake.

And then.......

(RRRrrrrrrooaaaarrrr!) Where are the free weights! LOL

[chasbari]

I am off on an obtuse track when it comes to using my prototypes for my workouts. I was doing everything I could to ramp up the workout including developing negative upload apparatus on things like my Duo squat machine, etc. Now, I use only resistance and a certain protocol as outlined and taught by my friends at Renaissance Exercise. I have returned to a mode of equipment I had been developing 25 years ago but was not really using to it's fullest potential as I was in the work analysis sets and reps mode of thinking. I found that when I began to shift my thinking and revisit my old designs with the new protocol that I was able to get a much briefer more intensely targeted workout and not be exhausted from all the work I was doing. In short, my target is not work done any more (Of which I still have insufficient metabolic resource) but rather strength stimulus. Read: similar to Dr. Doug McGuff's Body By Science ideas meshed with the Ren Ex folks. It's difficult to explain clearly without having a person sit on one of my prototypes or experiencing the training at Ren Ex. As a result, I find that a light protein snack an hour before hand and a large protein heavy meal within an hour post workout have significant positive impact on my recovery. If I eat carb heavy at all I have real problems with actually losing weight fairly fast. Of course, I am an old fart, too.

CS

[Philadelphia]

Thanks for the responses. I decided to return the protein powder. I'm going to pick up something simple and natural like hemp protein instead of some chock-full-of-chemicals blend. I'll up my lean meats intake and just try to eat more proper calories throughout the day.

I may go with some plain creatine monohydrate powder in addition though, still debating.

[GlutenGladi8or]

Thanks for the responses. I decided to return the protein powder. I'm going to pick up something simple and natural like hemp protein instead of some chock-full-of-chemicals blend. I'll up my lean meats intake and just try to eat more proper calories throughout the day.

I may go with some plain creatine monohydrate powder in addition though, still debating.

When it comes to protein powders or even food... less is more. Opt for the least amount of ingredients. And, if there is some sort of chemical/additive/binder/extender that you have NO idea what it is... put it back on the shelf.

Good luck!