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  1. I have spent the last month in Turkey and Greece and wanted to let you guys know how it is being gluten-free here. While I haven't been contaminated once, my diet has been pretty repetitive.

    Gluten-free bread/pasta/crackers/anything do not exist here. At all.

    Once you accept that, then you can start working out what in their diet is naturally gluten-free, and work from there. They eat a lot of bread, in kebab (Turkey) / gyros (Greece) form etc, so they look at you like you're retarded when you ask for things with no bread. I have had some success getting a kebab with no bread (in a cup, in a french fries bag, on a plate etc) as these are by the far the cheapest fastest foods. Some places will do it, some won't, it's just luck. Some places will be incredibly rude about it and talk about the freak who wants a chicken pita with no pita for about 15 mins. Seriously the guy told every other Greek in the restaurant about me. That was a low point.

    So yeh anyways the kebab/gyros meat is safe, as is shishkebab/souvlaki (meat on skewer). Mostly these come with salad and/or french fries. They don't eat much all that much rice here in Greece, it's usually not that great when you do get it. In Istanbul the rice is really good though, I love it.

    Corn on the cob is available from street vendors in Turkey, I recommend that you go for the boiled not the bbq'd.

    If you see an Indian or Thai or any other restaurant that are good in terms of gluten-free food, go for it. On Mykonos there is an awesome Thai place called Blue Ginger, you MUST go there. The view, the service, the decor are all excellent as well as some of the best chicken satay sticks I've ever had in my life.

    In Rhodes Old Town there's a good Indian called Bombay I think. Delicious. Also a traditional Greek place called Rustico modified one of the dishes for me and they were great. We had the Kleftico and the Vlacho's Plate. Tasty stew type dishes.

    In Santorini, stay at a place called Rena's Villas in Fira. After reading my little Greek translation of the Coeliac restaurant card, he not only organised for me to have free omelletes with fetta each morning (originally not included in the continental brekky, woulda cost me 3.5 Eu per day) but then went and researched Coeliac's, got a whole lot of info from the Greek Society, told me he'd be getting in gluten-free bread for the breakfasts, and was generally an incredibly lovely and helpful host. Mama Rena is also very kind but doesn't speak English. She was intrigued by the curry we made in their kitchen. (If you're a curry freak like me, take curry pastes with you as they're not commonly available. We stumbled across a few jars of Patak's in the Big Supermarket in Kamari, Santorini. Unfortunately after only one use this got taken off me by Customs when I stupidly left it in my carry-on luggage. Too used to travelling by ferry, not plane.)

    If you're trying to eat cheap, lunch is by far the hardest. I found rice cakes in one mini-mart, so for a while I was eating cheese tomato cucumber and Hungarian Salami on those. Obviously check all the salami ingredients, that packet had the ignredients in English but some don't. They eat a lot of processed meats here, it's tough to get unprocessed conveniently. Thats the big thing I think. Good gluten-free good is available but it's expensive and inconvenient.

    Can't think what else I wanted to or should say, any questions feel free to email me. Have one more week in Greece and then heading for Croatia, so I'll let you know how I go there too.

    Hope this was helpful :)

  2.   Saz said:
    Has anyone tired the new berry biscuits from freedom foods? They are only available at Woolworths aprantly but sound like they'd be tasty

    I found hot dog buns at an IGA the other day! They are made by Golden hearth. It cost me about $10.50, to expensive to have all the time but I just had to try them - They were quite nice.

    Also I recently tired the IGA gluten-free carrot cake, it was delicious, again rather expensive but I rekon u could take to a function or somthing and the gluten eaters would enjoy it. I want to try the chocolate one next.

    Also does anyone know of any of the pre mixed alcoholic drinks we can have? Eg: Midori, Breezer etc?

    I'm not sure on Midori or Breezer pre-mixes, but I know we can have Smirnoff Ices and Lemon Ruskis :)

    Is anyone here from Perth or WA?

  3.   andrew_70 said:
    Ok, so my seven week sweep goes like this: Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, France, England, France (again), back up to Belgium. I'm 23 and will be staying in youth hostels, backpacking and traveling inexpensively. I also know none of the languages. Except English.

    I suppose I'll try and translate a statement of allergy (or intolerance, whatever) in several different languages. Is there anyone who's traveled in these countries who could help me out with advice? PLEASE? I am an avid weight lifter and expect to lose quite a bit of weight through malnutrition. I'm sure I will eat a lot of fruit and vegetables. Sigh. BUT, I am extremely excited to hike in the Alps and visit the myriad of art museums and sights. And party in Amsterdam and Prague.

    So please, fellow gluten-freer's, can you help?

    Andrew you legend! I'm going to most of those places next year, so I'm stoked I found this thread. I'm 21, from Australia, leaving in April 2008. The plan at the moment is to go Turkey, Greece, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, UK.

    I've already printed out the restaurant cards in about 15 differenct languages haha im so excited! From what I've read we should be pretty fine in continental Europe, Franch Italy Germany etc seem to all have a lot of gluten-free awareness and products. Spain is also great apparently. What I'm worried about it Turkey and Croatia... I think they might be hard.

    So anyone who has heard anything on those areas let me know please!

  4.   kowkitty said:
    Okay, I'm planning a avacation to Greece. What can I eat??? Can I get the Gyros and obviously not eat the pita? Maybe I can just find some roasted chicken and fish? Plain rice?

    Any ideas? I have not been so I have no idea about Greek foods.

    Thanks Jackie

    Hey Jackie did you end up finding any info on the availability of gluten-free food in Greece? I'm going to Europe in April next year, and figure I better start thinking about how it's gonna work.

    Cheers.

  5. I'm also struggling with the idea of treating gluten as a poison and replacing all my pots pans utensils chopping boards colander etc et etc. At the moment I'm saving every spare penny to get overseas early next year, and I just dont want to replace it all! Also I mentioned it to my housemate and he was saying "pfft cmon its not poison". And then I was like "umm actually to me it kinda is". It's hard for people to understand cos I wasnt sick before, my only symptom was low iron. So now I'm trying to bring in all these hardcore changes and they're saying but it cant be that bad you were never sick.

    The other thing is, even if I do buy all new utensils and pots and pans, can I still wash them in the same sink as his glutenous plates and pots? Do I have to use a different sponge?

    How do I know how sensitive I will get? I seem to be getting more and more sensitive as I cut out more hidden gluten (now in week 6 of gluten free life, still learning), how far will it go? And if I'm still getting residual gluten from my cookingware but its not actually making me feel sick, how do I tell if it is hurting my villi?

    I'm just scared that when the day comes that I want to have kids, I'll have real trouble with it and I'll look back and think "I should have tried harder". I don't want to blame myself if I have a miscarriage.

  6.   MissWingBat said:
    Hi there every1,

    Saz, I made banana cake last week - absolutely beautiful fresh out the oven, but alas! It didn't rise either - and then the next day it seemed to get heavier and heavier. I used SR flour, no bicarb or cornflour.

    My little boy's b'day party is coming up next weekend, all the fam are coming over and they are still to realise what gluten-free means. So does anyone have any great party food ideas that I can slip in, and then surprise them that they are gluten free! He had his actual birthday yesterday where we went to the waterpark, and I bought 'bought' cake and chips and lollies, which I couldn't have any of. So I wanted to have stuff at his party that I was ok to snack on - its hard to celebrate your babies birthday without having any cake. Just slicing it up and not licking your fingers was hard enough!

    Usually for parties I make my killer mini-quiches - but they are with puff pastry. Anyone had any luck finding or making their own pastry?

    Thanks in advance...!!!

    Well you can have original flavoured potato chips, and a range of lollies and chocolates (i like minties personally) so theres the junky stuff sorted. For "proper" foods, frittata is awesome as someone else mentioned. Also you could make sushi, or have cornchips and dips? Guacamole, hummus, salsa etc. Some gluten-free bakeries make turkish bread, and party pies and sausage rolls. (Not sure where you are, if you're in Perth I know Alternative Bites has all that.) Cheese platter with dried fruit and gluten-free crackers. And I'd go a big bowl of strawberries, maybe with cream :)

  7.   Shotzy1313 said:
    Everyone here seems to be on one side of the argument. Dont get me wrong, Id say I am also on this side but I am trying to see why he would say such a thing. Do you think its possible people go a little overboard? Since the symptoms are so broad it could almost look like people are blaming any negative feeling they have on celiac.

    I am so sorry for all you guys having this trouble! I'm in Perth, Australia, and was diagnosed 2 months ago. Happily, almost everyone (professionals and just friends/family/colleagues) has been very supportive. Only once has someone said something along the lines of making it up or blaming all random symptoms on Celiacs diesease, but since this was my housemate and I quickly pulled up a whole lot of info for him to read, he was an easy convert.

    Seems every person I've told knows someone else who is a Celiac, so I guess that's why they accept it. I heard recently that they think 1 in 10 Australians has a gluten intolerance, but only 1 in 100 is being diagnosed. Is it similar figures for the US?

  8. Does anyone else get this? Had my first coffee today since going gluten-free 2 weeks ago, and I'm burping a lot, and now feel I may throw up.

    I've never been a big coffee drinker, only 2-3 a week at max, and drink mochas which is why I've basically stopped cos my usual cafe uses chocolate powder that contains gluten. But today I got a flat white from there and added my own drinking chocolate (checked and is gluten-free), assuming I'd be fine. But no.

  9.   JNBunnie1 said:
    My tongue does that ridgey circles tender thing too, it always crops up when I eat slices of apple with peanut butter. I think I'm allergic to that combination of foods? It doesn't happen with just apples or peanut butter, only together, and not every time I eat it either, but that is the only time it happens.

    my tongue now seems to have recovered hooray! except in its place i have a full cold and sore throat. but i didnt have mouth ulcers or anything, and there was nothing noticeably wrong with my tongue it just felt bad.

    you know what sucks tho? i took cold n flu tablets last night, then went to have some more this morning and was doublechecking the amount to take when i saw down the bottom "Also contains lactose and gluten". WTF?! i just dont get why there is gluten in stuff like that! How long did it take other people to remember to check every single damn thing that they put in their mouth?

  10.   jewi0008 said:
    Here we go...I FINALLY found someone who gets mouth irritations!!! Can you please tell me what happens to your mouth?

    what kind of mouth irritations do you get? I have been gluten-free for almost 2 weeks (still eating some by accident i think) and the last couple days i have 1) been soooo hungry and 2) my mouth feels really sensitive. you know when u eat heaps of salty or sugary things and your tongue feels sensitive and your teeth feel razor sharp on your tongue? its been like that for days but i havent been eating anything that would normally cause it.

    btw this forum has been so helpful to me in the last few weeks. i was only diagnosed about 6 weeks ago, had the biopsy to confirm 2 weeks ago and am struggling with the new gluten free life! its very isolating hey? luckily friends family and workmates are being understanding, and theres a lot of info out there.

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