gfp
-
Posts
2,054 -
Joined
-
Last visited
2 Followers
Recent Profile Visitors
gfp's Achievements
-
-
I was wondering about this time line too. I haven't looked up anything, but two examples come to mind.
You need a tetanus shot every 7-10 years to maintain immunity.
It is said (but I don't know if proven) that everyone over 35-40 is no longer immune to small pox because none of us that got the shot were ever exposed to small box to get "boosted".
Seems like a big time spread and I don't know how you'd define the gliadin time point.
In a similar vein (pardon the pun) what about my natural TB immunity?
I was completely asymptomatic to the test but they gave me the BCG anyway and I'm the only person I know my age without a TB scar.
-
There is no cure at this point and I don't think there is a "cure". I know they were testing some sort of pill so you will be able to ingest gluten but thats not a cure because you will have to take pills like every day of your life. I would rather stay gluten free and have them on hand in case of accidental glutenings.
That is exactly what most MD's and especially GI's said about taking cyclohexane (a very cheap antibiotic) against being on rantitidine (the wonder drug) for life. Indeed they continued to say that for 5 years after the discovery and tests and had the antibiotics not already been FDA approved the US still wouldn't have a cure for ulcers.
-
From the same paper:
The results do not, however, support the hypothesis that prior exposure to Ad 12 is implicated in the pathogenesis of coeliac disease.
Then the question is perhaps the one I posed earlier.
Can damage to the intestine and inflammation perhaps allow a foot hold for a pathogen which would not normally be able to live in the intestine?
I remember reading was that Sickle Cell was protective against a disease (malaria?) and that how perhaps Celiac was protective against something as well.Erm... hence why I used sickle cell anaeamia as a analogue.
-
Good article, but old news. This information has been reported many times since I had my first (unnecessary) cesarean section in 1998...and the cesarean rate has been climbing since:
November 15, 2005
The CDC reports:
Cesarean rate for 2004 is 29.1%
The rate is up from 27.6% in 2003
U.S. cesareans have risen 40% since 1996
First-time cesareans are at an historical high of 20.6%
VBAC rate fell to 9.2%
Since 1996, the VBAC rate in the U.S. has plummeted 67%.
The cesarean seciton rate in North America is astronomically high, and women are being encouraged to choose a primary cesarean birth in absence of medical need. What many people fail to realize is that it is major surgery, with all the risks of surgery. Plus there are serious additional risks for the baby. Many women are not properly counselled on those risks...there is a serious issue with a lack of true informed consent.
There is a North America-based organization, ICAN (International Cesarean Awareness Network,) whose mandate is to lower the cesarean section rate through education, and to advocate for mothers in this regard. They also advocate VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) as a proven, safe choice over ERCS (elective repeat cesarean section). Unfortunately, the medical model of birth is based on fear...fewer and fewer practitioners are willing to properly support women in their desire for VBAC...and fewer and fewer practitioners are willing to support a woman through a safe, natural primary birth.
Check out ICAN here: Open Original Shared Link.
Michelle
Of course, its babies to order... non of that inconveneice for the medical staff with the mother not making enough effort
and deliberatly waiting till 2AM to have the baby just to spite them. With this they get the thing to order. -
I didn't try to get on during the night when it was down, but yesterday (Wednesday) the board was loading very slowly and it still is this morning.
What's with that?
Pretty certain its an error in the sql database,
Most of the posts haven't been updating properly (i.e. views zero and posts 10)
However I have no idea about Invision the SW used to power the board since I've never used it myself ....
My guess is its using the database but the FLUSH is not set so it grinds to a halt until the requests backup i the database and it goes down. (Just in case anyone is listening)
If Scott is interested I know a few experts in Invision who will help for free....
-
And I agree, gfp, that this is a dangerous article for those in the service industry to read. 7 years ago I WAS the waitress picking the croutons off the salad before I served it (granted, no one ever specifically and explicitly requested no croutons due to a food allergy).
-Courtney
Glad you picked up on that.....
I mean we go to all those lengths and explain a crumb will make us ill and then the food service industry people read that we are just being fussy and pulling out the croutons is perfectly OK?
I can imagine the kitchen chat....
"Oops.. just dropped the bread in that Roo burger"
"No don't remember the celaic training we had"
"Yeah sure but I just read that they can just pick them out.. its in the paper....They are just being faddy eaters.. just pull it out they'll never know"
-
Well I'm putting this in chat since it affects so many different issues.
Open Original Shared Link
More deaths for caesarean babiesBabies born by caesarean are nearly three times more likely to die in the first month than those born naturally, US research shows.
The findings, based on over 5.7 million births, are particularly important given the growing trend of women opting for caesareans, say the authors.
More than one in five of all British babies are now born by caesarean.
The Birth journal study included women with no obvious medical risks who had elected to have a caesarean.
ExplanationThe researchers suggest that the process of labour helps prepare the baby for life outside of the womb.
As well as squeezing fluid out of the lungs, it may promote the release of hormones that encourage healthy lung function.
Dr MacDormac said: "Labour is an important part of the birthing process because it gets infants ready to breathe air and function outside the womb."
Professor James Walker, consultant obstetrician at St James's University Hospital in Leeds and spokesman for the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said women should not be alarmed by the findings but should be informed.
"The absolute risk is still very small.
"But it should open people up to the fact that there are risks and benefits of everything. This is a relatively small risk but it is there and people need to know that."
Belinda Phipps of the National Childbirth Trust said: "I think that the study does need to be taken pretty seriously."
She said that earlier studies had already hinted that babies born by caesarean are more likely to experience breathing problems.
I'm sure this applies to lots of things from MSbP and cot death to celaics and childbirth.... so if a mod wants to move it fine, I just didn't know where to put it.
-
May sound silly,but do you keep your toe nails short enough?
I find (especially during the 'flip flop' months where I've let my toenails grow a tad longer than norm)that when I go to the gym,my toes start to hurt in a trainer after running.
It feels like the big toenails are starting to 'lift'.
Another thought is fungal infection which can also lift the nail off the nail bed
This sounds like #1.... or just that you are not use to it. When I was on vacation I was walking 8-10 hrs a day in very comfy sandals I have worn for years but I got a new blister everyday.
I used to run, and I recall that the most common suggestion given was larger shoes.That too... larger or better fitting. Often different brands have significant differences especially on the bridge support and the position of the bridge support can push your toes up and forwards.
-
Hm, my previous post seems to have been deleted so I'll reply to this. The trigger for celiac disease is thought to be infection with the adeno virus. It is found in the intestines of many people and its protein coat is simillar to gliadin.
Here's an excerpt from a study:
>A 12 amino acid sequence from the adenovirus 12 E1B protein is homologous at the protein level with a >similar 12-mer derived from the wheat protein A-gliadin. It has been suggested that exposure to Ad 12 >could sensitise individuals to gliadins with resultant gluten sensitive enteropathy
So the way this happens, is that there's cross reaction between the antibodies produced against the adenovirus and gluten, so now the body views gluten as an infectious agent.
Secondly I have seen research comparing the prolamine carbohydrate exterior with the waste product of certain viri.That would be the research I remembered.
-
I know what you mean, I am just thinking that an editorial is where people can write what they want. Maybe a follow up editiorial stating how dangerous her thoughts are, she just may not know better. I don't know I have been up half the night so am not thinking really clearly
I am pretty certain she doesn't know better but what worries me is that a newspaper should at least do due diligence in not publishing potentially harmful information even in the form of an editorial.
For instance I doubt they would have published an editorial (or at least without wanrings) that insulin dependant diabetics should just stop injecting.
However, I still think both types of letter are useful.... and complimentary.
If you are too nice then the paper is unlikely to be guarded enough and if everyone is too harsh then they might just retract it but if they receive both then hopefully they will do a folllw-up ....obviously they won't publish the scathing letters ... but they can cherry pick the others..AND. make themselves look good in the process but they are IMHO more likely to choose to publish the cherry picked ones when they also receive the scathing ones!
Just my 2c though....
-
After reading what she wrote I saw she is just a 17 year old girl that may not know any better. We maybe should come from a place of helping to educate her rather than being critical to her. She is probably just writing what she believes to be true
I'm not advocating writing to her but to the newspaper that published this.
My letter is one example and people are free to write whatever they like although I rather hope noone here is going to advocate picking out croutons!
A mixed response would probably be more effective IMHO anyway with some attempts to educate the "poor little girl" and others attacking the news paper for publishing a dangerous and misleading article under the guise of an editorial.
The point for me is making something an editorial does not exclude preventing harmful untruths in a public media.
-
There are lots of different "plagues". as in "a plague", but only one is nowadays called "the plague". Medical science being what it was at the time (ie, nonexistent), they tended to lump all diseases of a sort in together. Deadly contagious disease (flu, bubonic plague, typhoid)=plague, skin disease (leprosy, psoriasis, dh?)=leprosy...
It's not all that hard to catch bubonic plague. It happens ever year to people living in the Soutwest desert, where it is endemic to the native prairie dogs, and family pets pick the fleas up in the yard. I can imagine that anywhere rats carrying infected fleas have free access could have an outbreak.
Yes but its excessively difficult to transmit person to person in its bubonic form and Roman and Greek citizens didn't have fleas .. they bathed daily and treated their skin with oil.. even the poorest citizen had access to communal baths and even domestic slaves were forced to bathe and no Roman would let an unwashed slave anywhere close to them.
Hence human carried fleas could not be a major source of transmission.
What the Romans had was a huge rat problem due to their heavy dependance on grain and their extreme organisation in warehousing it and shipping it.
They were also knowledgeable about the danger of rats and transmission of diseases.
200 BC: The Roman, Cato the Censor, advocated oil sprays for pest control of domestic animals.
and
13 BC: The first rat-proof grainary was built by the Roman architect Marcus Pollio.
What I'm trying to say is one or two infected people would be unlikely in themselves to cause an outbreak...but the transport of bulk grain often with accompanying rats would.
-
thanks for posting that... unfortunately the person that wrote this article is like the majority of misinformed Celiacs... I've met quite a few that believe that they can eat Cheerio's and Quaker Oats with no problems and that eating the toppings off a pizza are acceptable... This is why we really need to pump up awareness and inform these people of the damage they are doing to themselves (and this person is doing to the celiac cause by putting out bad info like this)...
October is Celiac Awareness month, do your part, get involved. Educate someone.
I just did, I sent the email to the newspaper.
I think if they receive 10 or 100 emails in a similar vein it may have a profound educational effect..especially as I invited them to turn this around into a positive piece!
Check the link.. send an Email.
-
I agree that the essential amino acids are...well...essential. They can't be synthesized by the body, so we must obtain them from food.
...............
Additionally, there are the fatty acids. And like the amino acids, there are both essential and non-essential types. A comparison of animal and plant fats show many plant fats to be a far better choice.
.. and I'm not arguing that point and I am far from advocating carnivorism as a healthy diet in humans....we are omnivorous by evolution and plants play as large a role in our nutrients as meats, probably larger.
In common with elephants, guinea pigs and one or two other species humans are rather atypical in their inability to synthesise vitamin C.
I should have mentioned in my previous post that I actually don't eat much if any beans. This isn't by intent, and until more recent times I simply didn't take much notice. I have always loved peanut butter though, and until going on the gluten-free diet I consumed it regularly, in sandwiches of course. Being that the prepackaged gluten-free breads are expensive, and I haven't yet experimented with baking gluten-free breads, I switched to munching on peanuts until I get into some baking again. So peanuts certainly added to my protein intake, ever since early childhood. And I regularly ate quite a lot more of it than most people I know. So now I'm wondering if the this reduction since going gluten-free has contributed to any of the recent health problems I've been having.Have you ever tried peanut butter on apple?
.. and as you ask later.. of course celaics require more protein, firstly they are not digesting it efficiently and secondly ourt bodies are in a constant state of repair (or disprepair) requiring proteins and a catabolic state.
I'm actually not as against all meat as I am in favor of vegetables as protein sources. All my research indicates vegetables are simply healthier, especially when meats are so often tainted with all sorts of things which shouldn't be there. I also noticed that whenever I ate meat, I didn't feel as well. Darkening under my eyes was also a sign that something wasn't right. It was a somewhat regular part of my diet, just in small amounts - not like steaks or ribs, etc. The largest amounts of meat I ate was in the occasional meatloaf or meatballs. Both of which always had generous amounts of oatmeal (not breadcrumbs), along with other ingredients to make the most of the amount of meat being used. At the dinner table, meat was something added for flavor, not a main course.My upbringing was similar.. meat was only eaten once a day at most and then it was a luxury item.
It may be that Celiacs can require a higher than normal protein intake. If so, that would explain why so many feel they have to eat meats. I know there are a number of members on this board who have negative reactions to nuts/peanuts, so for those individuals, protein might be harder to find if beans aren't or can't be used. Especially if the increased protein consumption idea is true.Beans seem to be less popular with people in the US than in various other countries, which only adds to the meat trend. Of course, the beef and dairy industries continue to do whatever they can to promote the consumption of their products, which seem to be more controversial than ever these days. Still, Asian populations enjoy longer, healthier lives than people in the US, and Asians traditionally eat far more legumes/beans, and considerably less meats. Add in all the processed foods on the typical American supermarket shelf, and you have a recipe for much of the chronic/epidemic health problems in America.
I agree entirely but my basic precept is a perfect healthy diet doesn't exist.... everything you eat is bad for you some way or another .. my premise is you have to balance out and eat things in moderation.
For example many root vegetables are high in very toxic trace metals like selenium depending where they are grown.
I would be the first to agree that meat is eaten in not only excessive but obscene amounts in the US and that this trend is now following in Europe, firstly with the UK and Holland and speading out.
In countries with very high disposable income it is as bad or worse as the USA.
This might suprise you but for instance Libyans have a very high disposable income although like the US this is largely offset by private schools being expensive.
Officially Libyans only have a GDP per Capita of $11,630 per capita but considering there are officially 1.301 LD to the $ (IMF figures) and you can but 300 kg of beef for about 15 LD $11,360 buys a lot of meat. In addition all the "staples" bread, couscous, rice and olive oil are regualted and cost cents or hundreths of cents. (The price of bread is fixed at 20 pestari per kg and 1000 pestari per dinar) so a dollar buys over 50 loaves of bread!
Meat consumption is enormous, even by American standards.... and diabetes and obesity related diseases are going through the roof. Couscous has changed from being a vegetable dish with a little meat to a meat dish with some vegetables squeezed in.
Life expecancy is 76.69 compared to 77.42 in the USA... (WHO figures) although since over 90% of Libyans have African genes this figure still beats the USA life expectancy for African Americans at 71.4 ....
Europe
The rise of the American and copy-cat fast food industries in Europe has again increased meat consumption significantly.
Here are some interesting statistics presented as decending life expectancy in 2000
1955 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000MARTINIQUE 56.6 60.8 66.7 71.8 76.3 78.8
SWITZERLAND 69.2 70.7 72.2 75.2 77.4 78.6
SPAIN 63.9 67.7 71.6 74.3 76.6 78.4
ITALY 66 68.5 71 73.6 76.2 78.2
FRANCE 66.5 69.6 71.5 73.7 76 78.1
HOLLAND 72.1 73 73.6 75.3 76.8 77.9
BELGIUM 67.5 69.7 70.9 72.3 75.2 77.9
UK 69.2 70.4 71.4 72.8 75 77.2
SINGAPORE 60.4 63.2 67.9 70.8 73.6 77.2
USA 68.9 69.7 70.4 73.3 74.4 76.2
CUBA 59.3 62.3 68.3 72.6 74.1 76
and the same countries by decending life expectancy is 1955
HOLLAND 72.1 73 73.6 75.3 76.8 77.9UK 69.2 70.4 71.4 72.8 75 77.2
SWITZERLAND 69.2 70.7 72.2 75.2 77.4 78.6
USA 68.9 69.7 70.4 73.3 74.4 76.2
BELGIUM 67.5 69.7 70.9 72.3 75.2 77.9
FRANCE 66.5 69.6 71.5 73.7 76 78.1
ITALY 66 68.5 71 73.6 76.2 78.2
SPAIN 63.9 67.7 71.6 74.3 76.6 78.4
SINGAPORE 60.4 63.2 67.9 70.8 73.6 77.2
CUBA 59.3 62.3 68.3 72.6 74.1 76
MARTINIQUE 56.6 60.8 66.7 71.8 76.3 78.8
I threw in Martinique for a reason, it is a French protectorate and the right to work there is strictly limited.. even for French citizens who have a right to reside but not work without special application.
It also has a grand total of ZERO McDonalds. (which Im using as a fast food metric specific to meat)
The first thing to note is that most of the countries completely switch over between 1955 and 2000.
Martinique goes from the bottom to the top....but on the whole its inverted excepting Switzerland and Singapore.
The second is rather more cultural....
For instance the Mcdonalds Switzerland site is in German only? Presumably they don't expect to have many customers in French or Italian two of the other official languages?
Secondly "little USA wannbee countries" like Holland and UK go from the top part to the bottom.
Its hard to do this today accurately but personal experience tells me there are over 100 McDonalds in Central London alone (the yellow pages maxes out at 100) pop. = 2,766,114 versus 6 in inner Paris (2,125,246).
(note: Paris Remains the Most Dense Major City in the Developed World: Nonetheless, Paris remains by far the developed world's most densely populated major city (over 1,000,000), at 63,374 per square mile, excluding the peripheral parks, (24,450 per square kilometer). Paris is approximately double the density of Tokyo, three times as dense as inner London and six times as dense as Greater London. Paris is at least 2.5 times as dense as New York.)
Amsterdam (pop 730,000) 1/3 of Paris has a Mcdonalds on every corner practically.. though they are ex-directory in the phone book preventing a search.
Instead
AmsterdamEating
Amsterdam has loads of fast food joints ranging from McDonalds and Burger King to the ubiqtuious stands selling Vlaams Frites (French Fries) which are served in a paper cone with mayonnaise or a large selection of other sauces.
If you look at the figures you can see that those countries starting out quite well have plunged in general...
The UK and Holland were the first to start McDonalds and similar and the first to suffer healthwise (although obviously there is a big time gap) and obesity figures show a quicker response .... studies have been done showing correlations with the number of fast food resto's and obesity and it is a very good correlation!
Martinique is interesting because it enjoys a world class medical system being a French protectorate but imported fast food is almost unknown. I'm tempted to even say this shows how other countries should have fared without influence of Amercian style fast food and with advancing medicine.
-
Well you can start off by influenza. This is historically one of the largest killers.
Secondly I don't think bubonic and pneumonic plague was all that common as we are led to believe and most references to "plagues" are actually something more common like cholera or typhoid.
In most cases where clear descriptions are available and preserved from trained literate physicians the sypmtoms of plague do not fit with the known symptoms of yersinia pestis.
Secondly yersinia pestis is excessively difficult to transmit and the most common method being a flea bite in its bubonic form yet "plague" seems to have struck equally the clean hygenic populations of Rome and Greece as much as the filthy conditions in the middle east, africa and northern europe.
DNA extracted from the pulp in the teeth of "plague" victims in the peloponise war and plague of athens suggests that typhoid was actually responsible. This is questioned however from the descriptions by Thucydides, himself at least a trained physician of the time the symptoms are indicitive of typhoid not plague. (I have had typhoid and its not nice... however this is another baterial disease... it has to be said though that I with my HLA type survived it without medical treatment whereas my ex wife was hospitalised)
What is perhaps interesting is risk of bubonic plague is related to wheat consumption of a population.
For instance the hardest hit civilisations are the ones who are dependant upon grain and transport it in bulk, along with rats.
Other pandemics are usually associated with measles (viral) and TB (bacterial) or cholera (bacerial)
However its worth noting personal experience. I had measles when I was 4-5 but was not ill in anyway and even the spots were only mild wheras my non celiac brother was very ill.
Similarly when I received my TB vaccination at school the intial test showed me to be immune, they gave it me anyway... but I had no reaction, no lump on my arm like everyone else!
-
So general question to the experts (applying the 20% rule on experts)
It seems the HLA haplotype is one of the more studied sequences and better understood sequences in humans.
I think mike's hypothesis about this being a genetic mutation giving an advantage in respect to certain illnesses is certainly mertiable and worth persuing.
The most common analogy from the top of my head would be perhaps sickle cell anaemea?
(Reasoning, its genetically disadvantageous over non mutation unless a specific disease is prevalent)
What is the incidence of this in mixed race African-American's (including those who appear externally and beleive themselves to be to be 100% caucasian) over genetically purer populations in Africa and perhaps genetically more mixed populatins in say Cuba? How does this correlate with a far more commonly known and published genetic marker like blood type? (i.e. the incidence of Rh +ve in African-American's (about 7%) is far higher than African's in Africa which is i beleive about 7/10,000 .. especially if it is assumed as a working hypothesis the majority of population they mixed with were caucasian with around 16% Rh -ve to start off with. This hypothesis is easily tested since the amero-indian and Asian mutation is different.
Secondly I have seen research comparing the prolamine carbohydrate exterior with the waste product of certain viri.
I am wondering if the specific auto immune system triggers are due to cross reactive epitopes.
well if you're interested, it's been a while since I've taken immunologyYes but probably not so long as the last time I studied biology... (21 years ago and much has changed since then) and even back then I wasn't really very interested in it it was just an easy exam to pass .. actually come to think of it I dropped the subject 23 years ago at 13-14 (UK edication system)... and just took the exams at 16 largely because it required too much drawing and I'm terrible at drawing ...
I was forced to catch up a little in my PhD which was in organic geochemistry but i'm still working with an almost empty toolkit!
-
Open Original Shared Link
Celiac no picnicBy Kelsey Farabee
THE WAITER sets my salad in front of me, and once again I begin the tedious process of picking out the croutons.
I have celiac sprue, an autoimmune disease that prevents me from eating gluten. Unfortunately, gluten is everywhere, since it is a protein found in wheat, oats, barley and rye. Even though I was diagnosed five years ago, I still often forget to order my salads with no croutons.
Celiac disease affects more than 2 million Americans. The gluten found in most breads and cookies, as well as in envelope adhesive and some shampoos, inhibits nutrient absorption in people with celiac.
Celiac typically goes undiagnosed for many years, since it can appear during different stages of life and the symptoms are varied or do not appear at all. I was asymptomatic, my growth was not slowed, and my case would have gone unnoticed for many years had my mother not requested a specific blood test because I have Type I Diabetes. People with diabetes often also develop celiac, since both are autoimmune diseases.
Having celiac has led to some major changes in my life. I eat the cheese and toppings off of pizza because I cannot eat the crust, I have my own freezer at home filled with specialty breads, and I have eaten only half of a single Noah's bagel in my entire life. I always plan ahead and have food with me when leaving the house.
I love to eat out, which becomes a challenge with celiac. I have grown accustomed to the strange looks waiters give me as I insist that, really, I do not want a bread basket. People also commonly assume you are on the Atkins diet when you mention that you cannot eat wheat.
Luckily, the Bay Area is a food haven, and many restaurants, such as P.F. Chang's and Outback Steakhouse, have special menus to accommodate people with diet restrictions.
P.F. Chang's will clean a new wok before stir-frying to ensure that your meal is not contaminated with gluten, and per request they will use special gluten-free sauces on most dishes.
Lark Creek Walnut Creek has a knowledgeable staff and can provide a pleasurable dining experience.
Many local grocery stores are also great places for gluten-free diners. For example, Whole Foods Market carries an array of delicious baked goods made by the Gluten-Free Bakehouse. Based in North Carolina, the Bakehouse is a large, completely gluten-free facility. They offer different flavors of breads, cookies, muffins and pies, among other things. The prices are high compared to common grocery store fare, but the taste is well worth it.
Trader Joe's stocks many celiac-safe products and will provide a gluten-free product list. Harvest House in Concord has an entire aisle dedicated to gluten-free treats and freezers full of gluten-free entrees.
Despite the hassles, having celiac has not been a terrible experience for me. Though it is sad when friends go out for pizza and I am stuck with a salad, it has opened my eyes to a wide variety of new foods and made me more adventurous. I find myself eating more fruits and vegetables that I would otherwise. Rice and potatoes are staples of my diet, and luckily, I love to eat both.
The number of diagnosed cases of celiac has increased rapidly in the past few years. As the market base grows, better tasting gluten-free food has become easier to find.
My response....can I suggest a few more?
Celiac no picnic By Kelsey FarabeeDate: Today 10:49:23 am
From: sl <in my profile>
To: letters@cctimes.com
Dear Sir/Madam
It is with a combination of frustration, regret and disspointment that I read
your misguided and ill informed article "Celiac no picnic - By Kelsey
Farabee".
Your article begins "THE WAITER sets my salad in front of me, and once again I
begin the tedious process of picking out the croutons."
It continues "I eat the cheese and toppings off of pizza because I cannot eat
the crust".
This article is both dangerous to other celiacs and misleading for the general
public and to anybody reading this undoes years of hard work by celiacs in
educating the general public and hospitality business on the need for gluten
free.
Allow me to continue by saying that a single crumb of bread or any other
gluten containing ingedient is more than sufficient to make a celiac very ill
for several weeks and contributes to long term chronic and fatal diseases and
that to even suggest that picking out croutons or eating pizza toppings from
a pizza base will not make a celaic ill is completely irresponsible.
Luckily many diagnosed celiacs will recognise the article for the sham it is
but some will by wishful thinking convince themself that this is indeed
acceptable and will jeapardize their health but this is really only the tip
of the ice-berg.
Your writer continues "I was asymptomatic, my growth was not slowed, and my
case would have gone unnoticed for many years had my mother not requested a
specific blood test because I have Type I Diabetes." This indicates she has
no idea of the damage she is doing to herself by not sticking to a gluten
free diet and no idea when she has been poisined by the gluten but the real
tragedy of this article is that many of the waiting and kitchen staff readin
this article now beleive that you can just pick croutons out of a salad.
As celiacs have been trying to explain for many years the amount of gluten
needed to make them ill is miniscule, stirring the food with the same spoon
is more than sufficient as is grilling a steak on the same grill as something
containing gluten, even cleaning the pots and cooking implements with the
same cloth can contaminate the food cooked with the implments.
Eating out for celaics, even at a gluten friendly chain like PF-Chang's is a
crap shoot. You stand up to the plate and take your best shot with the waiter
and hope that your food is not contaminated. Getting his across to catering
staff is hard enough without misleading articles like this being printed.
I could go on about the battles parents have to keep their diagnosed children
on the diet by explaining they can't even touch something with gluten for
risk of a crumb ending up in the mouth or the hard work they have making sure
their children are safe in schools but this would only be a begining and now
the mom's will be trying to tell their kids why they can't pick the toppings
of a regular pizza and we would only just be starting the long list of hard
work that has been undone by this article.
I would hope that you retract this article as soon as possible and print a
retractment and I am sure with a little research and effort this can be
turned into a positive statement and perhaps save Kelsey's life.
Screening of the American population shows 1:133 people with celaic disease
yet only 1:4000 or less are actually diagnosed although this number is fast
increasing. As these newly diagnosed celiacs are diagnosed they are usually
confused and I am afraid this article will simply confuse them further.
Yours faithfully
Stephen Lord
-
I tried to put it in very simple terms. It's obviously a lot more complicated than a simple mutation, because autoimmune diseases are caused by multiple factors, but the presence of abnormal HLA genes is the most important.
Well explain it and Jestgar can translate....for the rest of us.
(please Jegstar)
I'm still interested in mutation of the HLA and non celiac autism spectrum as well btw.
-
I have just received an email from supposedly Scott Adams stating the below. I tried returning a reply, but my email was undelivered.
The return address is info@glutenfreeforum.com
"If you forum email continues to bounce we will have to delete your account.
Take care,
Scott"
What I want to know is if this is a genuine email, and if it is, what does it mean?
I have never sent emails to the forum and I only use this site to answer or create topics. So I have not got a clue what it means. I received Scott's updates by email, acutally I do not read them, maybe I should have. But I have not changed my email address, so any emails to me should not bounce.
Help I am so confused.
I was just wondering, is this service not free and is ther a subscription fee to participate. If that is the case I am guilty.
So Scott, or anybody who can help me with this problem, please advise me.
I do not want to be dropped from this forum as I have found it really helpful.
Thanks in anticipation
Cathy
According to your profile your at hotmail.
This probably means hotmail is bouncing the emails automatically.
Personally I never used hotmail (and wouldn't for a lot of reasons) but yahoo mail and gmail allow you to take "spam" sites out of the "spam list"... I don't know about MSN... you will have to look in the options.
Secondly, so far as I know the subscription for the emails is seperate the the forum....
Hotmail is really bad in a lof of ways and they seemingly randomly choose domains not to allow you to send to or deliberately hold up the email, this is specially noticeable if you try and send to another free account... this explains why you couldn't reply.
I think what Microsoft do is ban whole addresses for everyone so if someone marks it as spam then everyone else gets blocked...
-
Wow.. i have learned a lot from this thread. I have always been wondering about the subject of bleu cheese. I love the stuff and was always afraid to try it. If I understood correctly, some bleu actually says wheat on it?
The ones that dont should be safe?
I might not be understanding this. Please someone simplify it for me? I get all kinds of confuzzeled.
Basically it depends on the manufacturer.
For instance, some Roquefort is started of with a culture grown on rye bread whereas other's are naturally allowed to develop mould from the cave.
-
This topic is timely, I am scheduled for an endoscopy and colonoscopy in a few weeks. Thanks for the information.
Not sure we have any yet!
I just think memories are something you don't mess with and worry that like with LSD these memories might come flooding back years later. I'm also pretty worried when a pro-recreational drug site lists something as
Unpracticed trippers may be overpowered by the awesome revelations of Ketamine and may be somewhat overwhelmed, although in general fear seems to be unable to compound here (such as in an LSD trip or with other drug paranoias) and will probably be only episodic. Food should not be consumed within an hour and one-half before the trip, and should be avoided for longer periods of time if possible. A peculiar sort of loneliness can occur over the line, so it is a good idea to stay in close quarters with people you are close with, and best to have a sober monitor or experienced Ketter at hand.Setting is agreed to be crucial. Most agree that Ketamin not be used by inexperienced trippers unless they want a complete out-of-body experience that is sure to change their life.
-
I will also point out the fact that the recommended amount of protein had been too high for decades, because it was mistakenly based on rats instead of humans! The RDA (now called Recommended Daily Intake) was eventually changed, but it seems many Americans simply don't realize that the emphasis on protein was misguided. For some info on this, I will refer to the following document:
Gotta go but quck post..
I agree the RDA has been way to high for a long time but this greatly over simplifies the subject.
Protein does not build muscle .. amino acids do when recombined to human protein.
If you are not getting a balance of the essential amino acids then everything else is wasted and not used as protein and eventually converted to glycogen. In the meatime it can produce all sorts of deterious effects.
The amount of protein ingested is actually irrelevant what is important is the amount of usuable protein.
You could eat melons or potatoes all day and the body would be unable to use any of the protein unless its combined. If you combine it then unless you know the amino acid content of the foods then you are going to end up with an imbalance.
Meats are much closer to what we need so gram for gram provide more usuable protein and less (dangerous) by products.
-
"With a general this is more cut and dry... patient is concious .. small wait patient is unconcious and the patient has the right to say NO right up to going under.
In the case of amnesiacs the patient may experience a bad trip and say NO.... they may wish to end the procedure and they are still concious. "
Good point. Once doctors start they don't stop. I'm glad I always insisted on the general.
worse still you are not going to remember saying no.....
I had my stomach biopsy on local only (just a spray on my throat) and the whole thing was pretty horrid...
Old style endoscope with fibre optic not TV.... but I didn't get an option for general (insurance) and didn't want amnesiac.
At least if I had insisted he stop he would have had to rather than knowing I wouldn't remember after!
-
Hmmm, I love bleu & have missed it because of the could-be-gluten warnings. But I just had a thought... these molds that grow on wheat... could they possibly be advantageous to Celiacs? Maybe they actually digest & destroy gluten! I'm thinking they might be analogous to the bacteria that make yogurt more digestible for the lactose intolerant. It's probably just wishful thinking, but maybe our bellies need some Roquefort!
Hm but we have LSD available now so no need for ergot...
Seriously though I have the same thoughts....
and deliberatly waiting till 2AM to have the baby just to spite them. With this they get the thing to order.
More Deaths For Caesarean Babies
in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
Posted
but Tony Blair say's they are safe! He wouldn't lie would he?