Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Celiac Testing. Ttg Tests Not The Most Accurate To Detect Early Stage celiac disease


answerseeker

Recommended Posts

answerseeker Enthusiast

Here's an interesting article. Only 64% accuracy with the ttg test in early stage celiac. Kaiser doesn't do the whole panel. It's so important to get the celiac panel because you can see in this article the accuracy goes up pretty significantly with the ema tests. This refers to early stage celiac with little or no villi damage (marsh I)

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21063208/

My insurance changes in Jan, no more Kaiser. I'm getting my children retested with the whole celiac panel


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nvsmom Community Regular

Interesting. The EMA IgA's ability to detect early celiac disease surprised me. It usually doesn't show up until there is already damage (from tTG IgA) and then it tries to wipe out the top damage layer of the villi... like a second wave of attack.  At least that how I understood it. :ph34r:

answerseeker Enthusiast

I think they are always learning new things about this disease! I don't think there is enough research yet in early stage celiac. But it does seem to me that the ttg has a high false negative. My kids tested almost the same exact numbers on the ttg as I did and as each other did which is odd to me. My ttg was false negative. I thought it was due to prednisone but this makes me wonder. Regardless, they are getting a whole celiac panel done the minute our insurance changes!

NoGlutenCooties Contributor

I can't put my finger on where I read this but I remember seeing that a negative bloodtest is only about 70% accurate.  However, a positive bloodtest is about 97% accurate.  Also, it is important to get the actual numbers from the doctor (which it sounds like you did) rather than just the "positive" or "negative".  There are discrepancies in what different labs and different doctors consider "positive".  For example, my doctor doesn't consider it to be a positive result unless the number is over 11.  But most nutritionalists will tell you that anything over 3 is positive - just not "positive enough" for the insurance companies to want to pay for the endoscopy.  In this case you'd have to get tested annually and see if the number goes up.

nvsmom Community Regular

The numbers that I usually quote are from the Open Original Shared Link On page 12 it shows that the tTG IgA's sensitivity (how many cases of celiac disease out of 100 it would catch) is 75-95% - meaning it misses 5-25% of celiac disease with false negatives- and the specificity (how many cases of 100 positives are actually celiac disease) is 91-99% - meaning 1-9% of all positive tests are false positives for celiac disease and probably attributed to something else like crohn's, colitis, diabetes, thyroiditis, liver disease, or some other infection.

 

False negatives are definitely more common than false positives.

 

I'm glad you have a doctor who will interpret the grey areas, NoGlutenCooties. Most doctors won't, there is just positive or negative nevermind that the numbers seperating them may be next to nothing.

NoGlutenCooties Contributor

I'm glad you have a doctor who will interpret the grey areas, NoGlutenCooties. Most doctors won't, there is just positive or negative nevermind that the numbers seperating them may be next to nothing.

 

I actually insist on getting the specific numbers from the doctor, to include a copy of the test results, and do my own independent research.  I don't trust doctors to explain - or even to really know - what the grey areas mean.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Tazfromoz replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      14

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    2. - hjayne19 posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      0

      Celiac Screening

    3. - yellowstone posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      0

      Cold/flu or gluten poisoning?

    4. - Churro replied to Churro's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      17

      Celiac disease symptoms

    5. - Wheatwacked replied to Churro's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      17

      Celiac disease symptoms

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,073
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    amaryliss
    Newest Member
    amaryliss
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Tazfromoz
      My understanding, and ex I erience is that we coeliacs are likely to suffer more extreme reactions from viruses. Eg we are more likely to be hospitalised with influenza. So, sadly, your shingles may be worse because you are coeliac. So sorry you had to go through this. My mother endured shingles multiple times. She was undiagnosed with coeliac disease until she was 65. Me at 45. I've had the new long lasting vaccine. It knocked me around badly, but worth it to avoid shingles.
    • hjayne19
      Hi all,  Looking for some advice. I started having some symptoms this past summer like night sweats and waking at 4 am and felt quite achy in my joints. I was training heavily for cycling for a few weeks prior to the onset of these symptoms starting. I have had low Ferratin for about 4 years (started at 6) and usually sits around 24 give or take. I was doing some research and questioned either or not I might have celiac disease (since I didn’t have any gastric symptoms really). My family doctor ran blood screening for celiac. And my results came back: Tissue Transglutaminase Ab IgA HI 66.6 U/mL Immunoglobulin IgA 1.73 g/ My doctor then diagnosed me with celiac and I have now been gluten free for 3 months. In this time I no longer get night sweats my joint pain is gone and I’m still having trouble sleeping but could very much be from anxiety. I was since referred to an endoscopy clinic to get a colonoscopy and they said I should be getting a biopsy done to confirm celiac. In this case I have to return to eating gluten for 4-6 weeks before the procedure. Just wanted some advice on this. I seem to be getting different answers from my family physician and from the GI doctor for a diagnosis.    Thanks,  
    • yellowstone
      Cold/flu or gluten poisoning? Hello. I've had another similar episode. I find it very difficult to differentiate between the symptoms of a cold or flu and those caused by gluten poisoning. In fact, I don't know if my current worsening is due to having eaten something that disagreed with me or if the cold I have has caused my body, which is hypersensitive, to produce symptoms similar to those of gluten poisoning.        
    • Churro
      I'm no longer dealing with constipation. I got my liver test last month and it was in normal range. Two years ago I did have a vitamin D deficiency but I'm know taking vitamin D3 pills. Last month I got my vitamin D checked and it was in normal range. I don't believe I've had my choline checked. However, I do drink almond milk eat Greek yogurt on a daily basis. 
    • Wheatwacked
      Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity (NCGS) can be associated with low ferritin and iron deficiency. Once Celiac Disease (1% of the population affected) has been ruled out by tests the next step is to check for Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity (10% of the population affected) by eliminating gluten for a trial period, then re-introduce Gluten Challange. Have you been supplementing Iron? How are your liver enzymes? Low levels of ferritin indicate iron deficiency, while  59% transferrin saturation indicates high iron levels.  Possibly indicating Fatty Liver Disease.  Choline is crucial for liver health, and deficiency is a known trigger for Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver.  Some experts say that less than 10% eat the the Food and Nutrition Board established Adequate Intake that are based on the prevention of liver damage. Severe constipation and hemorrhoids may be linked to a bile or choline deficiency.  "Ninety-five percent of phospholipids (PLs) in bile is secreted as phosphatidylcholine or lecithin."  Fatty acid composition of phospholipids in bile in man   Deficiency of these bile salts causes the bile to get thick. Some people with Celiac Disease are misdiagnosed with Gall Bladder bile issues.  Removal of the gallbladder provides only temporary relief. Whether or not celiac disease or NCGS are your issues you need to look at your vitamin D blood level.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.