Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

no hla genes but tested positve via enterolab


beelzebubble

Recommended Posts

beelzebubble Contributor

I just ran my 23 and me dna through a bunch of engines.  I don't have the genes for celiac (except one of the contributor genes and a bunch of generic autoimmune ones).  I was "diagnosed" through enterolab around 2001.  When I got my results, I went gluten-free immediately.  95% of my symptoms disappeared within the year.  I'd had daily diarrhea for 13 years and horrible stomach and headaches for 8.  I was so happy to find out what it was.

Now, I'm super confused (and feel strangely saddened) that I can't call myself a celiac anymore.  I've read that there's no such thing as non-celiac gluten sensitivity and yet I greatly improved without gluten and I do not have either of the genes that predispose to celiac.  I do have a horde of genes for crohn's, but that doesn't respond to gluten, does it?  Give me your expertise, folks.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Fundog Enthusiast

Yes, new research is showing that NCGS, or NCWS (w=wheat) is indeed a real "thing," and not just made up.  In addition, a lot of people with other autoimmune diseases, from Chron's to Fibromyalgia, and even eczema, are finding that avoiding gluten results in a marked reduction in symptoms.  So... if you feel better and have fewer symptoms when you avoid gluten, then you very well could have a gluten sensitivity!  And who are we to say otherwise?

Jmg Mentor

Open Original Shared Link has a lot of detail concerning the current understanding of NCGS.

It's certainly real. It needs more research, but the positive news is that research is underway. Hopefully there will be more answers and greater understanding as that work is completed.

In the meantime, don't worry about the reporting of this, it's frequently agenda driven and inaccurate. Try and stick to the science based journals and blogs, there's some excellent ones highlighted here by admin. 

Oh and call yourself what you like! If your happy living gluten free, stick rigorously to the diet and your health issues have resolved what does it matter? I had negative biopsy but will tell a restaurant I'm coeliac to ensure they follow as strict a policy as possible on contamination. My guess is that eventually we'll discover that traditional coeliac and NCGS are all interrelated and just different places on a spectrum. 

All the best!
 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - AlwaysLearning replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

    2. - Colleen H replied to Colleen H's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      3

      Gluten related ??

    3. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      4

      My only proof

    4. - AlwaysLearning replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      4

      My only proof


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,089
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Clare Durham
    Newest Member
    Clare Durham
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • AlwaysLearning
      Get tested for vitamin deficiencies.  Though neuropathy can be a symptom of celiac, it can also be caused by deficiencies due to poor digestion caused by celiac and could be easier to treat.
    • Colleen H
      Thank you so much for your response  Yes it seems as though things get very painful as time goes on.  I'm not eating gluten as far as I know.  However, I'm not sure of cross contamination.  My system seems to weaken to hidden spices and other possibilities. ???  if cross contamination is possible...I am in a super sensitive mode of celiac disease.. Neuropathy from head to toes
    • Jmartes71
      EXACTLY! I was asked yesterday on my LAST video call with Standford and I stated exactly yes absolutely this is why I need the name! One, get proper care, two, not get worse.Im falling apart, stressed out, in pain and just opened email from Stanford stating I was rude ect.I want that video reviewed by higher ups and see if that women still has a job or not.Im saying this because I've been medically screwed and asking for help because bills don't pay itself. This could be malpratice siit but im not good at finding lawyers
    • AlwaysLearning
      We feel your pain. It took me 20+ years of regularly going to doctors desperate for answers only to be told there was nothing wrong with me … when I was 20 pounds underweight, suffering from severe nutritional deficiencies, and in a great deal of pain. I had to figure it out for myself. If you're in the U.S., not having an official diagnosis does mean you can't claim a tax deduction for the extra expense of gluten-free foods. But it can also be a good thing. Pre-existing conditions might be a reason why a health insurance company might reject your application or charge you more money. No official diagnosis means you don't have a pre-existing condition. I really hope you don't live in the U.S. and don't have these challenges. Do you need an official diagnosis for a specific reason? Else, I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you're diligent in remaining gluten free, your body should be healing as much as possible so there isn't much else you could do anyway. And there are plenty of us out here who never got that official diagnosis because we couldn't eat enough gluten to get tested. Now that the IL-2 test is available, I suppose I could take it, but I don't feel the need. Someone else not believing me really isn't my problem as long as I can stay in control of my own food.
    • AlwaysLearning
      If you're just starting out in being gluten free, I would expect it to take months before you learned enough about hidden sources of gluten before you stopped making major mistakes. Ice cream? Not safe unless they say it is gluten free. Spaghetti sauce? Not safe unless is says gluten-free. Natural ingredients? Who knows what's in there. You pretty much need to cook with whole ingredients yourself to avoid it completely. Most gluten-free products should be safe, but while you're in the hypersensitive phase right after going gluten free, you may notice that when something like a microwave meal seems to not be gluten-free … then you find out that it is produced in a shared facility where it can become contaminated. My reactions were much-more severe after going gluten free. The analogy that I use is that you had a whole army of soldiers waiting for some gluten to attack, and now that you took away their target, when the stragglers from the gluten army accidentally wander onto the battlefield, you still have your entire army going out and attacking them. Expect it to take two years before all of the training facilities that were producing your soldiers have fallen into disrepair and are no longer producing soldiers. But that is two years after you stop accidentally glutening yourself. Every time you do eat gluten, another training facility can be built and more soldiers will be waiting to attack. Good luck figuring things out.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.