Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Celiac/Chrohns/IBS? Kinda terrified.


Hartelively

Recommended Posts

Hartelively Newbie
(edited)

Hi everyone,

I'm currently in the process of getting tested for celiac and have been so stressed about it, it would be amazing to hear from other people who have gone through a similar process to mine. Does this sound like Celiac? Sorry in advance for the following novel!

Basic backstory: I went from ages 10-22 without seeing a medical doctor except in emergencies due to being poor. I'm 23 now, and just recently (in February) got health insurance for the first time in my life ever. I always thought I had IBS (frequent diarrhea) which made sense because I was pretty severely abused as a child and would often have to have diarrhea after experiencing those "episodes." My girlfriend's parents paid for me to see a therapist and psychiatrist beginning at age 20 when I was severely depressed and anxious, and they thought it was IBS too. I'm no longer seeing the therapist but wish I was now that this is a problem.

The diarrhea details (lmao sorry): I almost never get diarrhea anymore because I was convinced it was IBS and started eating more slowly, taking care to not eat heavy meals when anxious, moving around less after eating, and cutting out dairy and red meat. I will occasionally get diarrhea for no known reason but who knows? It goes like this when I do have it: somewhat sudden pain in my lower abdomen, same area as period cramps. In fact I often mistake the two. I have diarrhea (a lot...), then the pain vanishes. No other stomach or abdominal pains. I never get abdominal pain without diarrhea, and I never continue to feel ill after having diarrhea. I also had a scary incident last August (2017) where I noticed a um...clear stringy substance in my stool. I thought it was a tapeworm, went running panicking to urgent care and gave them a stool sample. They ran a full culture on it (took two weeks) and it was negative. I insisted on doing a second test and it was negative again. So the urgent care doctor said it was probably mucus in my stool.

I got the full celiac blood work panel a few weeks ago and all my vitamins, minerals, nutrients etc. were perfect. So I am absorbing my nutrients well enough. BUT the metabolic Celiac test was iffy. I got one "weak positive." I will copy in my test results, excluding the vitamins/nutrients bits. It definitely seems to me that it indicates Celiac but my primary care doctor said she would "interpret it as negative." However she gave me a referral to a gastro specialist who I have an appointment with on July 13. It will be an initial consultation; I can't get an endoscopy unless that specialist agrees to it. So the actual endoscopy may not happen until late July or even August, September...

Full list of symptoms: Diarrhea, persistent rash on my chest (little red bumps, always flares up when taking a hot shower or getting extremely anxious--went to a dermatologist for this when I was 9 and he just said it would go away but it never did), occasional small mouth ulcer (haven't had one in about a year and a half), and often feeling fatigued and irritable. I also feel very cold easily, much more easily than the average person. I've also ruled out the following with previous tests: anemia, diabetes, and thyroid issues. Basically every blood test I've ever done has come out perfect until this one weak positive!

I should also note here that I have a second cousin with Celiac (my mother's first cousin).

I can accept it if it's Celiac. In fact I hope it is because I would love to do away with diarrhea and the rash!!! My BIG fear is that it's Chrohns instead. But I have never had any bleeding in that region.

Overall Celiac Disease Panel results (all results just said "normal"): WBC, RBC, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, MCV, MCH, MCHC, Neutrophils, Immature Granulocytes, Lymphs, Monocytes, Eos, Basos, Platelets, Neutrophils (Absolute), Immature Grans (Abs), Lymphs (Absolute), Monocytes (Absolute), Eos (Absolute), Baso (Absolute), RDW.

Metabolic Celiac Test results attached as an image...

Thanks all. x

Edit: Forgot to mention that I am currently still eating plenty of gluten, and even have been known to eat an entire baguette by myself in one sitting haha. I do not get diarrhea after this. If my diarrhea is connected to gluten, it's certainly very delayed.

 

Screen Shot 2018-06-23 at 10.27.17 PM.png

Edited by Hartelively

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tessa25 Rising Star

The full celiac panel includes:

TTG IGA
TTG IGG
DGP IGA
DGP IGG
EMA
IGA

A positive on any one blood test should lead to a gastroenterologist doing an endoscopy /biopsies to see if you have celiac.

It looks like you are missing the DGP tests. Perhaps you can get them done while you are waiting for your gastro appointment. You could possibly have a more definitive result from them.

 

Hartelively Newbie

Oh, wow, thanks, I was told by my doctor that I had the "full" panel but I guess not. Unfortunately I have the type of insurance that means I have to see her again before I can do anything else and she is out on vacation until July 10 so there is almost no point in trying to make another appointment before the specialist one. I doubt urgent care would do it?

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      15

      My only proof

    2. - Rejoicephd commented on Jefferson Adams's article in Gluten-Free Cooking
      1

      Your Complete Gluten-Free Thanksgiving Plan: Recipes, Tips & Holiday Favorites

    3. - marion wheaton replied to marion wheaton's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      3

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?

    4. - trents replied to marion wheaton's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      3

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,420
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    maggie23
    Newest Member
    maggie23
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      Years  ago a friend and I drove north into Canada hoping to find a ski resort open in late spring,We were in my VW and found a small ski area near a small town and started up this gravelled road up a mountain. We  got about halfway up and got stuck in the mud. We tried everything we could think of but an hour later we were still stuck. Finally a pickup came down the road, laughed at our situation, then pulled the VW free of the mud. We followed him back to the ski area where where he started up the rope ski lift and we had an enjoyable hour of skiing and gave us a shot of aquavit  before we left.It was a great rescue.  In some ways this reminds me of your situation. You are waiting for a rescue and you have chosen medical practitioners to do it now or as soon as possible. As you have found out the med. experts have not learned how to help you. You face years of continuing to feel horrible, frustrated searching for your rescuer to save you. You can break away from from this pattern of thinking and you have begun breaking  away by using some herbs and supplements from doTerra. Now you can start trying some of the suggestions thatother Celiacs have written to your original posts.  You live with other people who eat gluten foods. Cross contamination is very possible. Are you sure that their food is completely separate from their food. It  is not only the gluten grains you need to avoid (wheat, barley, rye) but possibly oats, cows milk also. Whenever you fall back into that angry and frustrated way of thinking get up and walk around for a whild. You will learn ways to break that way of thinking about your problems.  Best wishes for your future. May you enjpy a better life.  
    • marion wheaton
      Thanks for responding. I researched further and Lindt Lindor chocolate balls do contain barely malt powder which contains gluten. I was surprised at all of the conflicting information I found when I checked online.
    • trents
      @BlessedinBoston, it is possible that in Canada the product in question is formulated differently than in the USA or at least processed in in a facility that precludes cross contamination. I assume from your user name that you are in the USA. And it is also possible that the product meets the FDA requirement of not more than 20ppm of gluten but you are a super sensitive celiac for whom that standard is insufficient. 
    • BlessedinBoston
      No,Lindt is not gluten free no matter what they say on their website. I found out the hard way when I was newly diagnosed in 2000. At that time the Lindt truffles were just becoming popular and were only sold in small specialty shops at the mall. You couldn't buy them in any stores like today and I was obsessed with them 😁. Took me a while to get around to checking them and was heartbroken when I saw they were absolutely not gluten free 😔. Felt the same when I realized Twizzlers weren't either. Took me a while to get my diet on order after being diagnosed. I was diagnosed with small bowel non Hodgkins lymphoma at the same time. So it was a very stressful time to say the least. Hope this helps 😁.
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I understand your frustration and anger.  I've been in a similar situation where no doctor took me seriously, accused me of making things up, and eventually sent me home to suffer alone.   My doctors did not recognize nutritional deficiencies.  Doctors are trained in medical learning institutions that are funded by pharmaceutical companies.  They are taught which medications cover up which symptoms.  Doctors are required to take twenty  hours of nutritional education in seven years of medical training.  (They can earn nine hours in Nutrition by taking a three day weekend seminar.)  They are taught nutritional deficiencies are passe' and don't happen in our well fed Western society any more.  In Celiac Disease, the autoimmune response and inflammation affects the absorption of ALL the essential vitamins and minerals.  Correcting nutritional deficiencies caused by malabsorption is essential!  I begged my doctor to check my Vitamin D level, which he did only after making sure my insurance would cover it.  When my Vitamin D came back extremely low, my doctor was very surprised, but refused to test for further nutritional deficiencies because he "couldn't make money prescribing vitamins.". I believe it was beyond his knowledge, so he blamed me for making stuff up, and stormed out of the exam room.  I had studied Nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology.  I switched because I was curious what vitamins from our food were doing in our bodies.  Vitamins are substances that our bodies cannot manufacture, so we must ingest them every day.  Without them, our bodies cannot manufacture life sustaining enzymes and we sicken and die.   At home alone, I could feel myself dying.  It's an unnerving feeling, to say the least, and, so, with nothing left to lose, I relied in my education in nutrition.  My symptoms of Thiamine deficiency were the worst, so I began taking high dose Thiamine.  I had health improvement within an hour.  It was magical.  I continued taking high dose thiamine with a B Complex, magnesium. and other essential nutrients.  The health improvements continued for months.  High doses of thiamine are required to correct a thiamine deficiency because thiamine affects every cell and mitochondria in our bodies.    A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function.  The cerebellum of the brain is most affected.  The cerebellum controls things we don't have to consciously have to think about, like digestion, balance, breathing, blood pressure, heart rate, hormone regulation, and many more.  Thiamine is absorbed from the digestive tract and sent to the most important organs like the brain and the heart.  This leaves the digestive tract depleted of Thiamine and symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi, a thiamine deficiency localized in the digestive system, begin to appear.  Symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi include anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, headaches, Gerd, acid reflux, gas, slow stomach emptying, gastroparesis, bloating, diarrhea and/or constipation, incontinence, abdominal pain, IBS,  SIBO, POTS, high blood pressure, heart rate changes like tachycardia, difficulty swallowing, Barrett's Esophagus, peripheral neuropathy, and more. Doctors are only taught about thiamine deficiency in alcoholism and look for the classic triad of symptoms (changes in gait, mental function, and nystagmus) but fail to realize that gastrointestinal symptoms can precede these symptoms by months.  All three classic triad of symptoms only appear in fifteen percent of patients, with most patients being diagnosed with thiamine deficiency post mortem.  I had all three but swore I didn't drink, so I was dismissed as "crazy" and sent home to die basically.   Yes, I understand how frustrating no answers from doctors can be.  I took OTC Thiamine Hydrochloride, and later thiamine in the forms TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and Benfotiamine to correct my thiamine deficiency.  I also took magnesium, needed by thiamine to make those life sustaining enzymes.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins, so the other B vitamins must be supplemented as well.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   A doctor can administer high dose thiamine by IV along with the other B vitamins.  Again, Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine should be given if only to rule Gastrointestinal Beriberi out as a cause of your symptoms.  If no improvement, no harm is done. Share the following link with your doctors.  Section Three is especially informative.  They need to be expand their knowledge about Thiamine and nutrition in Celiac Disease.  Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test for thiamine deficiency.  This test is more reliable than a blood test. Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling.  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/ Best wishes!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.