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Versed And Demerol

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jayhawkmom Enthusiast
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My EGD was yesterday at 1 PM. I actually was wheeled into the room at 2:00.

It's 5:00 the day after, and I'm still SOOOOOO gosh darn tired!! Is this normal??

I slept all afternoon yesterday. I took a 3 hour nap earlier this afternoon, and I'm ready for bed.

Is there anything I can do to get rid of this exhaustion and sleepiness?? Is it the versed? The demerol? Both?

I'm tired of being a non-functioning member of my home.

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My EGD was yesterday at 1 PM. I actually was wheeled into the room at 2:00.

It's 5:00 the day after, and I'm still SOOOOOO gosh darn tired!! Is this normal??

I slept all afternoon yesterday. I took a 3 hour nap earlier this afternoon, and I'm ready for bed.

Is there anything I can do to get rid of this exhaustion and sleepiness?? Is it the versed? The demerol? Both?

I'm tired of being a non-functioning member of my home.

Both of those will make you tired, especially the demerol though. How long are you on them? You should be "back to normal" within 12 hours of stopping the meds, but I am not sure if you are taking them for a long period of time.....

jayhawkmom Enthusiast
jayhawkmom
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I actually only had the one dose. That's why I'm so confused. I got both through an IV. Once I left the hospital, that was it.

My husband keeps saying, "It's the gluten... it's the gluten."

I think it's the gluten/caffeine with drawl. (is that possible??)

In all honesty, I'm usually a 2-3 diet cokes a day kind of person. (usually 22 oz size) I figured I can't cut caffeine cold turkey, so I had ONE 22 oz this afternoon.

I feel like poopookaakaa!! :blink:

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Rikki Tikki
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Hi Kris:

It might be the less diet coke thing. Hope you feel better now. What is an EGD?

jayhawkmom Enthusiast
jayhawkmom
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EGD - esophagogastroduodenoscopy

I can't tell you how badly I WANT a diet coke right now...... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Rikki Tikki
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Can't you just have a diet coke? I can't imagine my world without a diet pepsi, or rather those around me would not be having a very good time! :blink::blink::blink:

Why did you have to have that done? Is that the same thing as the endscopy

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jayhawkmom
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Is that the same thing as the endscopy

Yes. I just didn't want to spell it. LOL!!!

My GI wants me OFF carbonated beverages, as well as those with caffeine. I'm trying.... I really am.

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tiffjake Enthusiast
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Yes. I just didn't want to spell it. LOL!!!

My GI wants me OFF carbonated beverages, as well as those with caffeine. I'm trying.... I really am.

OOOOHHHHHH, well, then it is probably the lack of caffine (and the fact that the procedure alone is tireing! Not that I know from personal experience, but that any procedure puts your body through the ringers. It takes a couple of days for things to level out).

If it is caffine that you want, and can't have diet coke, what about tea?

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Why does he want you off of carbonated beverages? I couldn't survive as a celiac without coke - a meal in itself - at least it works out that way sometimes. I went back to the non-diet ones, I know it is full of sugar, but at least it gives me some extra energy.

I have had 3 EGDs, and didn't have after-effects lasting longer than 6 hours or so with any of them. The half-life of versed is pretty short.

Another way to get caffeine - eat chocolate. I know I am showing all of my bad health habits here.

I assume you went to KU?

Chris

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Another way to get caffeine - eat chocolate. I know I am showing all of my bad health habits here.

Chris

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Fiddle-Faddle
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When you think about it, caffeine is an addictive drug, and if it's caffeinated diet soda you're drinking, you're opening yourself up to all kinds of health complications (all those horrible chemicals!)--just like eating gluten! If you have a chance to get off caffeine, you will ultimately be doing your health a huge favor (not to mention your wallet!).

I don't mean to sound holier-than-thou here--I'm totally addicted to chocolate--which definitely has caffeine! :(

jayhawkmom Enthusiast
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Due to the extent of my GERD issues (scaring in my esophagus) - he doesn't want me to have carbonation or caffeine. And, the paper I got says chocolate is an irritant too.

Seriously.... you should see all the stuff I was told I *can not* have due to the GERD issues alone.

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I had read about how much improved (and much safer) the whole endoscopy procedure is now and how easy it is compared to in the bad old days. So it wasn't until I was hooked up to all the monitors a few weeks ago that I began to think maybe there was more to the procedure than I had planned...

Took a good couple of days to recover from the meds (and I had to teach 9 a.m. the next morning! Was so out of it I ended up 'fessing to my students that I'd had a "day procedure" the day before and was still recovering.)

Stay away from all the hard-to-digest foods (this includes pop!) for a couple of days too--you've just had several chunks of your intestine scooped away. I was amazed at just how sore I felt for a few days afterwards. Go easy on your guts.

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The meds are just to make it easier for the doctor. They don't do a thing for the patient. It's kind of like the old days when a mom giving birth was knocked out. It's the same thing with dentistry--people get knocked out all the time to have their wisdom teeth taken out, which, if the dentist knows what he or she is doing with Novacaine, IS NOT PAINFUL, even if your wisdom teeth are impacted. I used to think getting knocked out for all these things was necessary--until a friend of mine who is an anasthesiologist set me straight. Getting knocked out is just to make it more convenient for the doctor, who has no lasting after-effects from the meds!

I've had 2 endoscopies with only a local spray anesthetic, partly because I am always nervous about how I over-react to meds that don't seem to floor others (and I'm starting to suspect that that is somehow related to the gluten thing), and partly because I wanted to watch what was going on.

While it was certainly unpleasant (I have the world's worst gag reflex), the whole thing was only about 5 minutes, it was not the least bit painful, and when the doctor was done, I was able to get up and go home--NO after-effects whatsoever.

I also have a very patient doctor who was willing to let me try it without the "twilight" anesthesia--we know what most doctors are like....

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