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Are We Thinking About This The Right Way?


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Hi Everyone

I am wondering if our thought processes may be backward. I am thinking about all of the related conditions and wondering if celiac causes related condidtions instead of being just associated with them. There would have to be a wide spectrum of individual response to account for the wide variety of assoicated condidtions. But what if the gluten response triggered these different condidtions in different individuals, eg thyroid, liver, epilepsy, diabetes problems or if these other problems have a common link to make people celiac.


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Hi Everyone

I am wondering if our thought processes may be backward. I am thinking about all of the related conditions and wondering if celiac causes related condidtions instead of being just associated with them. There would have to be a wide spectrum of individual response to account for the wide variety of assoicated condidtions. But what if the gluten response triggered these different condidtions in different individuals, eg thyroid, liver, epilepsy, diabetes problems or if these other problems have a common link to make people celiac.

I agree. We really need to get the medical world to open their eyes.

The antibody reaction is an extrememly destructive one and really can seriously impact people before the doctors even think to look for a cause. Symptom relief is what it is all about and the drugs that supply that relief.

One of the biggest issues IMHO is the celiac related depression and anxiety that many of us suffer. I get so angry when I see the TV ads for antidepressants. So many folks go and ask for this drug and that one and doctors are so ignorant about finding the true cause they just hand out the pills.

My family was not only not helped by antidepressants they caused irrational thought processes, violent ideology, self destuctive behaviors and suicidal thoughts and preperations. The 'cure' was far worse than the 'disease' in this instance. And I don't think my families experience was unusual. Just look at what they have to say about many of the young people who commit horrendous acts. I wonder how many of these people, who they say have been seen for depression, were reacting to the drugs they were taking for it?

I also wonder how many are diabetic because of undiagnosed celiac? They are at least starting to open their eyes on this issue. My doctor has stated that there is not a doubt in his mind that if I had been diagnosed in childhood when I should have been that I would not have develped diabetes.

Oh and lets not forget arthritis, mine was so bad that even typing was impossible, I was given script after script to help control the pain (some later pulled from the market). Within a few months gluten-free my arthritis was completely 'in remission' and I can move as well as I could in my 20's. The joint damage remains but there is no pain anymore. Not even with an accidental glutening.

Oh and let's not forget inferility of unknown origin. They have confirmed that it is not the malabsorption that prevents many of us from concieving or early miscarriage but they don't know what causes it. But how many folks who are having trouble concieving are tested for celiac or told to try the diet?

I suppose I could go on for a long time. This issue makes me probally more angry than any other issue with celiac disease. We are going about this backwards. Completely. And our hospitals stay full, our drug companies make millions, we have the highest percentage of our population in the penal system than any other country in the world, and we have difficulty giving health care to all of our citizens because of the myriad of problems that result from unrecognized celiacs eating this toxin every day.

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