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Gluten, Casein And Peanut Butter


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I need help!

I am going through a really frustrating time. Much stress in my life due to learning a new job, but that will soon be over and my life will take on a somewhat more tranquil state again... At least as tranquil as it is without learning a new job.

My problem is that I thought for a long time I could not have dairy products. So I cut them out, but did not feel much better - still had gas and cramping, although not as much as when I used to eat gluten, pre-diagnose. I have added cheese to my diet again, but am not feeling much better. I have cut out peanut butter which I love (the pure stuff without any additives). I am not feeling better.

Now I am back to square one, and find myself able to eat only some veg's, organic poultry, and rice. And, of course, fish, which I love. Many fruits make my stomach upset - a large glass of orange juice gives me severe cramps.

The gluten free flours I tried earlier this year feels like a lump in my stomach when I eat them.

Basically, I am finding my diet so restricted that I want to cry. And feel sorry for myself. I am 90 % sure that I absolutely CANNOT have anything dairy - not even once in a while.

One day this week I had a good day without any stomach problems; I did not eat anything with dairy in it the day before. I just don't trust that it was only because I did not eat anything with dairy in it.

I also seem to not sleep well, or I am tired and run down and drag my feet when I have dairy, and then sometimes I cannot sleep at all; have headaches and just feel completely out of it.

HELP. What the heck am I to eat???

Could I, in addition to being a Celiac and not being able to eat dairy foods, also have IBS??? Could all my additional sensitivities be IBS, whatever that REALLY is? I am skeptical of IBS because it seems like such a "catch all" for stuff doctors simply don't know what else to call...

Am I ready for a completely combination gluten/casein free diet? Good grief, what's left that I can eat???

Sorry to sound so negative - I just need to vent today... :(


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JNBunnie1 Community Regular

I know you've probably heard this a bunch of times, but it sounds like you have a bad stomach reaction every time you eat something starchy or sugary, so it's probably a yeast (candida) issue. Are you prone to yeast infections, or do you get that thrush in your mouth, especially after fruit or baked goods?

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I think that no one should drink orange juice. It is just too much sugar at once, bad for the stomach & bad for your joints. Try an orange instead. You should most definitely not be eating dairy. I am sure that it is keeping your system in turmoil.

You need to eat a very good diet of meat, veggies, fruit & nuts.

be sure to add in things like baked sweet potatoes, jicama, kale, cabbage, carrots and other veggies.

Sauerkraut is good for your gut...

cook your fruit if you cannot handle fruit. Are you eating a lot of sugar? Grains? I would also check into candida, high lectin foods, & high oxalate foods.

I am gluten-free/DF, grain free, legume free, potato free & beef free - because I get a stomach ache to beef. Not that I have had any organic grass fed beef... I also only drink water.

I recommend the books "dangerous grains", "Eat Right for your blood type" (not a gluten-free book but just cross out the wheat & dairy parts), "Super Foods" again not a gluten-free book but a good refresher on nutritious foods.

Guest Happynwgal2
I know you've probably heard this a bunch of times, but it sounds like you have a bad stomach reaction every time you eat something starchy or sugary, so it's probably a yeast (candida) issue. Are you prone to yeast infections, or do you get that thrush in your mouth, especially after fruit or baked goods?

Several years ago I actually went through a caprylic acid "cure" to kill candida since I have had two yeast infections and several small ones that I have gotten rid of before they became really bad. I had forgotten about candida until I read you response. I know I cannot eat yeast bread since it makes my stomach well up and then very crampy.

Thanks for reminding me about yeast (candida) - there are so many things I am fairly sure I cannot eat, thus the possibility that sugary and starchy foods also make me sick, makes a lot of sense with that in mind. I do not have any thrush, but my stomach hurts and I feel really sick. I have a lot of headaches that I simply don't understand the reason for...

It would also make sense since I am absolutely addicted to sugar and sweets. I think you sometimes crave what makes you really sick - I believe that is one of the problems alcoholics have...

I think I am in denial about how much I react to - it is SO frustrating not to be able to eat "normally" - and that I have to stay away from not only gluten, but many other things, too.

How do you all deal with this? Right now I am not dealing well with this at all... I want to scream... And cry, because the longer I try to deal with my sensitivities, the more it seems like I find... Good thing I like veg's and fish - it seems like that's about all I can eat - on top of some rice... Yep, I AM feeling a bit sorry for myself tonight... :wacko::unsure::(

JNBunnie1 Community Regular
Several years ago I actually went through a caprylic acid "cure" to kill candida since I have had two yeast infections and several small ones that I have gotten rid of before they became really bad. I had forgotten about candida until I read you response. I know I cannot eat yeast bread since it makes my stomach well up and then very crampy.

Thanks for reminding me about yeast (candida) - there are so many things I am fairly sure I cannot eat, thus the possibility that sugary and starchy foods also make me sick, makes a lot of sense with that in mind. I do not have any thrush, but my stomach hurts and I feel really sick. I have a lot of headaches that I simply don't understand the reason for...

It would also make sense since I am absolutely addicted to sugar and sweets. I think you sometimes crave what makes you really sick - I believe that is one of the problems alcoholics have...

I think I am in denial about how much I react to - it is SO frustrating not to be able to eat "normally" - and that I have to stay away from not only gluten, but many other things, too.

How do you all deal with this? Right now I am not dealing well with this at all... I want to scream... And cry, because the longer I try to deal with my sensitivities, the more it seems like I find... Good thing I like veg's and fish - it seems like that's about all I can eat - on top of some rice... Yep, I AM feeling a bit sorry for myself tonight... :wacko::unsure::(

Oh, that's no fun. What I've studied about candidiasis is that the yeast is what's making you crave the sweets, because that's what it thrives on. And your gut and the things living in your gut have a much larger effect on the things you choose to do than you might think. you might try googling "candida diet", you'll get a lot of responses. Oh, darnit, there's somebody on the board with a lot of experience in it and I can't think who, I'll tell you if it comes to me. But the headaches and stomch sensitivity really sound like a yeast thing, especially since you're prone to yeast infections.

Guest Happynwgal2
Oh, darnit, there's somebody on the board with a lot of experience in it and I can't think who, I'll tell you if it comes to me. But the headaches and stomch sensitivity really sound like a yeast thing, especially since you're prone to yeast infections.

I would be very grateful for any information about the yeast infection/candida connection. Maybe I have finally solved my headache problem... If you remember who has the experience here, please let me know, and I will send a note to them, asking if that person would be willing to share some of their experiences with me. I am in desperate need of help to understand why I am just not feeling better...

Thanks for answering my post... :)

NoGluGirl Contributor

Dear Happynwgal2,

I have an essay I wrote on Candida. The pathology is quite fascinating. Just PM me with your personal e-mail address. It must be sent in an attachment, as it is a Word document. Do not worry, you are not alone! My stomach is very bloated and upset from the yeast as well. I crave sugar all the time, and peanut butter is something I cannot even keep in the house, because I will devour the entire jar in several days!

You know why? Candida feeds on peanuts and peanut butter, and other naturally moldy foods. Pistachios are another one to stay away from. My tongue turns white upon eating fruit. Too much starchy foods irritate my gut as well. I was doing great the first two months on the gluten-free diet, but then a course of Flagyl messed me up. I feel the same way I did before going on the diet a lot again. I may also have Lyme.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl


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