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Sarah, I found this link on another thread and thought about you and Erza. The relevant article is on page 10, Unexpected Mortality Increase in celiac disease. Part of the article is bad news (sorry!) but one part specifically applies to Erza; a doctor states that he is positive that gluten can be "responsible for psychiatric effects in children as young as five years old." So it looks as if you're on the right track and gluten free may be an answer for Erza. Open Original Shared Link

I wish you, Erza and your whole family good health.

~Laura

Laura, thanks for the link! Some aspects of the article were scary, you're right... I have a feeling that mortality rate will normalize in the future, though. I think that the evolution of the way we view these types of diseases will cause that. It is good to read a doctor's verification of what we've all been thinking!!

The spacy and walking away? I don't know about the spacy part but the walking away could be bordom/add.. because my katie used to do that.. she had both of them bordom and add.

How about watching thru the window? have them put him in a place where he can not see out the window so you can watch that way.. see what happens.. Every kid acts differently in school than at home also-- so i wouldn't worry too much..

I cant think of much else at the moment as we are sort of in a crisis here now. but i wanted to answer asap

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TALK SOON

LYNN

Lynn,

Wow, so much of that sounds just like Ezra!!! I am still keeping the dairy thing in the back of my mind... Actually it's been moving to the forefront of my mind lately. I know that dairy gives many people major problems with mucus...

Sarah--I don't know if Ezra can swallow pills, but we always gave Victoria the OTC Zantac when we thought what she had was reflux. Of course, it didn't help, but I never filled the RX the doctor gave us. Maybe that is an option. $50 is too much!

That may be a possibility. At this point, it's looking like reflux isn't the problem... *sigh*

Gluten intolerance can cause depression, bipolar, anxiety and schizophrenia. I would not consider meds until you try the gluten free diet first

I'm right there with ya on that! ;)

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Sarah, I can't remember if I mentioned it in a previous post, but I was able to reduce my own Nexium (like Zantac but more $$ :ph34r: ) by 50% after going off gluten.

Also, if an ulcer is a possibility, they should check for a helicobacter pylori infection....apparently, that bacteria causes 80+% of ulcers.....

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I didn't have time to read all the previous posts, so sorry if someone already posted something similar.

My oldest son had always had anger issues. He would build until he was in an uncontrollable rage. It scared him and it scared us, especially as he has gotten bigger (he is 13 now). It seemed related to carbs somehow and we could keep him at a relatively even keel by keeping him low carb.

After I went gluten-free two years ago, I noticed an evening out of my own moods. The light went on and we had my son try out a gluten-free diet. The rages stopped almost immediately. He can still be snarky and sullen, but it isn't anything that isn't normal for a teenager.

The interesting thing is that we actually put both of our boys on the gluten-free diet. My youngest didn't have the rages but was pretty emotional. If he was happy, he would be bouncing off of the walls. If he was sad, it was the end of the world. It was like all emotions were ramped by 10 times. Once he went gluten-free, the emotions leveled out to much more normal levels.

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