Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Myoclonus


Kenster61

Recommended Posts

Kenster61 Enthusiast

Hello,

I haven't been on for a while due to a debilitating illness that the Dr.s haven't been able to come up with a definitive diagnoses. I have been having seizure for the past two years. They have changed in the past few months in the way they present but in my reading the other day I came across this rare type of epilepsy where the muscles contract and then losen up. In the article the author says that people with Celiac Desease can be suseptable to this illness. This can happen many times in a row or once every few hours. I have had them last for hours. My seizures have been diagnosed by my Neurologist as nonepileptic or psychogenic. My Psychiatrist feels differently as do other Dr.s who have witnessed my seizures. My question is has there been anyone out there with celiac who has had these symptoms and has anyone been diagnosed with Myoclonus and how do you deal with it.

ken Ritter

Celiac Since 2004


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Lemonsieur Newbie

I was officially diagnosed with Myoclonus a few years ago ('04 or '05 I think). I don't have an official celiac diagnosis, but tested positive for gluten intolerance with Enterolab and elimination diet (in '07). The treatment plan the neurologist wanted to take made me really apprehensive (several horse pills a day) so I didn't go along with it, and just decided to deal with it and find some other answers. I think he had prescribed depakote. I had to stop taking martial arts.

Mine doesn't seem to be as severe as yours. I don't think I have full blown seizures (although I did have them as a child). Mine is a loss of control (and perhaps consciousness ) for a split second. It impedes my speech, and interrupts whatever my current action is. I am not aware of what transpires in that moment of time. It is like I short circuit for a few milliseconds. I once punched my wife in the face and didn't know it! Lucky she was understanding :) !

Since going GFCFSF I have had much fewer episodes. I was able to continue martial arts. They only seem to happen now when I am lacking in some nutrients. Such as not eating quite properly and then exercising, or some other activity that requires intense concentration or fine motor skills. The most recent experience happened a couple of weeks ago. I didn't really eat that great a breakfast, and when to martial arts class. I had episodes through out the entire class. Pretty disconcerting.

Don't give up in your search for answers and don't settle if you are not happy with what answers your currently getting. Good luck and please keep us informed of your progress.

Kenster61 Enthusiast
I was officially diagnosed with Myoclonus a few years ago ('04 or '05 I think). I don't have an official celiac diagnosis, but tested positive for gluten intolerance with Enterolab and elimination diet (in '07). The treatment plan the neurologist wanted to take made me really apprehensive (several horse pills a day) so I didn't go along with it, and just decided to deal with it and find some other answers. I think he had prescribed depakote. I had to stop taking martial arts.

Mine doesn't seem to be as severe as yours. I don't think I have full blown seizures (although I did have them as a child). Mine is a loss of control (and perhaps consciousness ) for a split second. It impedes my speech, and interrupts whatever my current action is. I am not aware of what transpires in that moment of time. It is like I short circuit for a few milliseconds. I once punched my wife in the face and didn't know it! Lucky she was understanding :) !

Since going GFCFSF I have had much fewer episodes. I was able to continue martial arts. They only seem to happen now when I am lacking in some nutrients. Such as not eating quite properly and then exercising, or some other activity that requires intense concentration or fine motor skills. The most recent experience happened a couple of weeks ago. I didn't really eat that great a breakfast, and when to martial arts class. I had episodes through out the entire class. Pretty disconcerting.

Don't give up in your search for answers and don't settle if you are not happy with what answers your currently getting. Good luck and please keep us informed of your progress.

Kenster61 Enthusiast

Thank You,

At least I'm not the only one. I tell you these have wiped me out. But is Myoconus an epileptic diagoses or is it a muscle related symtom?

Ken

I was officially diagnosed with Myoclonus a few years ago ('04 or '05 I think). I don't have an official celiac diagnosis, but tested positive for gluten intolerance with Enterolab and elimination diet (in '07). The treatment plan the neurologist wanted to take made me really apprehensive (several horse pills a day) so I didn't go along with it, and just decided to deal with it and find some other answers. I think he had prescribed depakote. I had to stop taking martial arts.

Mine doesn't seem to be as severe as yours. I don't think I have full blown seizures (although I did have them as a child). Mine is a loss of control (and perhaps consciousness ) for a split second. It impedes my speech, and interrupts whatever my current action is. I am not aware of what transpires in that moment of time. It is like I short circuit for a few milliseconds. I once punched my wife in the face and didn't know it! Lucky she was understanding :) !

Since going GFCFSF I have had much fewer episodes. I was able to continue martial arts. They only seem to happen now when I am lacking in some nutrients. Such as not eating quite properly and then exercising, or some other activity that requires intense concentration or fine motor skills. The most recent experience happened a couple of weeks ago. I didn't really eat that great a breakfast, and when to martial arts class. I had episodes through out the entire class. Pretty disconcerting.

Don't give up in your search for answers and don't settle if you are not happy with what answers your currently getting. Good luck and please keep us informed of your progress.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

Please look into Lyme DIsease!

The dad of one of my students was only diagnosed with Lyme after he began to have seizures. And for some reason, Lyme seems to cause a kind of non-celiac gluten intolerance. There is a very active Lyme Disease thread here on this board, because so many here have been definitively diagnosed with Lyme.

Good luck!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,333
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Donna Chem
    Newest Member
    Donna Chem
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.