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- trents replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders42Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?
Thanks for the thoughtful reply and links, Wheatwacked. Definitely some food for thought. However, I would point out that your linked articles refer to gliadin in human breast milk, not cow's milk. And although it might seem reasonable to conclude it would work the same way in cows, that is not necessarily the case. Studies seem to indicate otherwise. Studies... -
- Scott Adams replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders42Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?
I'd be very cautious about accepting these claims without robust evidence. The hypothesis requires a chain of biologically unlikely events: Gluten/gliadin survives the cow's rumen and entire digestive system intact. It is then absorbed whole into the cow's bloodstream. It bypasses the cow's immune system and liver. It is then secreted... -
- Wheatwacked commented on Scott Adams's article in Latest Research6Study Estimates the Costs of Delayed Celiac Disease Diagnosis (+Video)
Have you had your 25(OH)D vitamin D blood level checked? Vitamin D deficiency occurs in 40 - 60% of western societies. It is even more common in Celiac Disease because of malabsorption syndrome. Appropriate intake of vitamin D or skin production from sun, increases the absorbtion rate of Calcium.and phosphorus, two minerals crucial to...- burden
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- Wheatwacked replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders42
Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?
Some backup to my statement about gluten and milk. Some background. When my son was born in 1976 he was colicky from the beginning. When he transitioned to formula it got really bad. That's when we found the only pediactric gastroenterologist (in a population of 6 million that dealt with Celiac Disease (and he only had 14 patients with celiac disease... -
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Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac
I don't know of a connection. Lots of people who don't have celiac disease/gluten issues get shingles.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply and links, Wheatwacked. Definitely some food for thought. However, I would point out that your linked articles refer to gliadin in human breast milk, not cow's milk. And although it might seem reasonable to conclude it would work the same way in cows, that is not necessarily the case. Studies seem to indicate otherwise. Studies also indicate the amount of gliadin in human breast milk is miniscule and unlikely to cause reactions: https://www.glutenfreewatchdog.org/news/gluten-peptides-in-human-breast-milk-implications-for-cows-milk/ I would also point out that Dr. Peter Osborne's doctorate is in chiropractic medicine, though he also has studied and, I believe, holds some sort of certifications in nutritional science. To put it plainly, he is considered by many qualified medical and nutritional professionals to be on the fringe of quackery. But he has a dedicated and rabid following, nonetheless. -
By Scott Adams · Posted
I'd be very cautious about accepting these claims without robust evidence. The hypothesis requires a chain of biologically unlikely events: Gluten/gliadin survives the cow's rumen and entire digestive system intact. It is then absorbed whole into the cow's bloodstream. It bypasses the cow's immune system and liver. It is then secreted, still intact and immunogenic, into the milk. The cow's digestive system is designed to break down proteins, not transfer them whole into milk. This is not a recognized pathway in veterinary science. The provided backup shifts from cow's milk to human breastmilk, which is a classic bait-and-switch. While the transfer of food proteins in human breastmilk is a valid area of study, it doesn't validate the initial claim about commercial dairy. The use of a Dr. Osborne video is a major red flag. His entire platform is based on the idea that all grains are toxic, a view that far exceeds the established science on Celiac Disease and non-celiac gluten sensitivity. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a YouTube video from a known ideological source is not that evidence." -
By Wheatwacked · Posted
Some backup to my statement about gluten and milk. Some background. When my son was born in 1976 he was colicky from the beginning. When he transitioned to formula it got really bad. That's when we found the only pediactric gastroenterologist (in a population of 6 million that dealt with Celiac Disease (and he only had 14 patients with celiac disease), who dianosed by biopsy and started him on Nutramegen. Recovery was quick. The portion of gluten that passes through to breastmilk is called gliadin. It is the component of gluten that causes celiac disease or gluten intolerance. What are the Effects of Gluten in Breastmilk? Gliaden, a component of gluten which is typically responsible for the intestinal reaction of gluten, DOES pass through breast milk. This is because gliaden (as one of many food proteins) passes through the lining of your small intestine into your blood. Can gluten transmit through breast milk? -
I don't know of a connection. Lots of people who don't have celiac disease/gluten issues get shingles.
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I’m 43, just newly diagnosed with a horrible case of shingles last week . They are all over my face , around my eye, ear , all in my scalp. Lymph nodes are a mess. Ear is a mess. My eye is hurting and sensitive. Pain has been a 10/10+ daily. Taking Motrin and Tylenol around the clock. I AM MISERABLE. The pain is unrelenting. I just want to cry. But Developing shingles has me a bit concerned about my immune system which also has me wondering about celiac and if there’s a connection to celiac / gluten and shingles; particularly since I haven't been 💯 gluten free because of all the confusing test results and doctors advice etc., is there a connection here? I’ve never had shingles and the gluten/ celiac roller coaster has been ongoing for a while but I’ve had gluten off and on the last year bc of all the confusion
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