Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

I'm New Here And Need Advice!


Violet

Recommended Posts

Violet Rookie

Hi everyone. I'm feeling a bit at the end of my rope at the moment. I was told I should stop eating gluten by an energy worker a few years ago. I know that sounds wacko..but at the time I was feeling so poorly that I agree'd to try it. I have felt better and better from it. I was already eating a natural, organic "health food" diet, so it wasn't all that difficult. However, I have now given up sugar and find it quite difficult to come across decent tasting bread that is gluten AND sugar free. When this woman told me I shouldn't eat gluten, she did say I was able to tolerate spelt. I didn't eat it tho. Recently, I had some spelt bread and pretzels and it was like heaven. Have you ever heard of spelt being ok? I was starting to think maybe I could get away w/eating gluten again but then I got a blood test back saying I was extremeley low in iron and b12. I poked around and found that people w/celiac are often lacking in those due to an inability to absorb them. If that is the case, will the iron pills I'm taking even help? I have EVERY symptom of iron deficiency and its not fun. The most recent is irregular heartbeat. I'm sorry if this a jumbled...I'm in a rush and trying to get it all out. So..any thoughts on iron? B12? Spelt? TIA!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



KaitiUSA Enthusiast

Spelt is for sure not ok. It's just like eating wheat. Spelt is a form of wheat.

Celiacs can have a problem with absorbing nutrients (if untreated) and that may be the cause of you being low in b12 and iron.

If you are in fact a celiac, have you eliminated all of gluten? Obviously you are still on some gluten because you are eating spelt so you should eliminate that.Gluten is hidden in many things like flavorings, modified food starch, etc. Gluten is not only found in food but in products like makeups, shampoos, soaps, etc and can easily get into your mouth.

The iron supplements and b vitamins would not help if you are not absorbing it. After being completely gluten free I think then you would benefit from them to help your body get those nutrients.

Do you still have symptoms being gluten free?

Violet Rookie

Thank you for the quick reply.

I did have lots of symptoms even when I wasn't eating spelt (its new for me, just in the past weeks). Most of my symptoms are that of iron deficiency. I can't figure out why, when I was totally gluten free ( I use totally pure soap etc..) I was still so low in iron? Maybe I was getting it w/out knowing. I dont know tho, I don't go out to eat often, cook in cast iron. Most of the gluten freel things out there are based w/rice. Perhaps rice effects me? I want to have a baby, so I really need to get this figured out, at least how to absorb iron! I'm not usually such a whiner, but I feel like just giving up today.

Carriefaith Enthusiast

If you have low iron, celiac disease is a possibility. If you really want to follow the gluten-free diet and see if it improves your iron levels, I would eliminate all sources of gluten. That includes reading labels and looking for gluten on every product that goes in or near your mouth. I would check shampoo, conditioner, make-up, suncreen, toothpaste, ect.

There is a safe and forbidden food and ingredient list on this web site, https://www.celiac.com/st_main.html?p_catid...-16105622901.3e. Also, if you need help determining what is and isn't, gluten-free feel free to ask us. There are many companies that will not hide gluten in their ingredient list, meaning they will come out and say wheat, rye, barley, or oats. Kaiti has that list if you are interested.

And Kaiti is right, spelt =gluten

Guest gfinnebraska

Just an additional note to the excellent info you have already received. I noticed you said you cook in an iron skillet. That skillet can contain particles of gluten in it. You should really buy a new pan and try that for a while as well. Make sure you aren't using any old wooden spoons that are contaminated, etc. It really takes a while to narrow down all the gluten/contamination issues. You will also need a new toaster ~ if you are using one. Gluten is in so many items that you would never think about. Reading the "safe" lists is an excellent way to start as well.

Good luck and good health!! :)

jenvan Collaborator

Also... It is a possibility that you will need an iron infusion for your anemia. I had to get one this spring b/c my iron would not go up. I am getting a follow-up test this week to see if I have to have another infusion as well. Sometimes it can take a while, and take several of these procedures to get someone's iron up to normal levels.

Violet Rookie

Wow..so much to think about! Thanks everyone!!

How is the iron infusion differnet from iron pills?

I'm confused about the cast iron pan...it has gluten, or holds onto old gluten? Sorry, that one really confuses me, lol.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



KaitiUSA Enthusiast

An iron infusion will directly put it into your bloodstream. This would be beneficial if you are not absorbing nutrients. IV's are a good idea to. Supplements just won't cut it if you are not absorbing anything because they will go right through you, so that's where those things become beneficial

As for the pan, what she was saying is if before you made gluten containing foods on it then residue from that stays on it.

Merika Contributor

Hi Violet,

If you are not completely gluten-free right now, and are eating the equivalent of a slice of bread a day (I think), you should get a blood test for celiac. You may have celiac, you may just be gluten-intolerant. Spelt is an ancient form of wheat that has very low gluten levels.

It seems you are unsure what level of gluten-avoidance you should be doing, and a test could give you the firm answer you need.

Before being diagnosed, I had switched to spelt bread and did much better on it than regular bread. I wouldn't eat it now though! If you are merely gluten-intolerant, maybe spelt would be ok? I don't know that much about gluten-intolerance though, just that your insides don't get damaged like with celiac.

Merika

Violet Rookie

I really appreciate everyone taking the time to reply.

What kind of test? Is it as simple as a blood test? The only gluten I have eaten has been the spelt. Is that enough for the test? Probably yes huh?

I used to be able to get some really yummy pizza crust at Whole Foods that was gluten-free. Does anyone have a good brand of pizza crust?

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Iam replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      33

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    2. - trents replied to Scatterbrain's topic in Sports and Fitness
      6

      Feel like I’m starting over

    3. - bobadigilatis replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      33

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,307
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Hcon74
    Newest Member
    Hcon74
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Iam
      Yes.  I have had the tmj condition for 40 years. My only help was strictly following celiac and also eliminating soy.  Numerous dental visits and several professionally made bite plates  did very little to help with symptoms
    • trents
      Cristiana makes a good point and it's something I've pointed out at different times on the forum. Not all of our ailments as those with celiac disease are necessarily tied to it. Sometimes we need to look outside the celiac box and remember we are mortal humans just like those without celiac disease.
    • bobadigilatis
      Also suffer badly with gluten and TMJD, cutting out gluten has been a game changer, seems to be micro amounts, much less than 20ppm.  Anyone else have issues with other food stuffs? Soy (tofu) and/or milk maybe causing TMJD flare-ups, any suggestions or ideas? --- I'm beginning to think it maybe crops that are grown or cured with glyphosphate. Oats, wheat, barley, soy, lentils, peas, chickpeas, rice, and buckwheat, almonds, apples, cherries, apricots, grapes, avocados, spinach, and pistachios.   
    • cristiana
      Hi @Scatterbrain Thank you for your reply.   Some of these things could be weaknesses, also triggered by stress, which perhaps have come about as the result of long-term deficiencies which can take a long time to correct.   Some could be completely unrelated. If it is of help, I'll tell you some of the things that started in the first year or two, following my diagnosis - I pinned everything on coeliac disease, but it turns out I wasn't always right!  Dizziness, lightheaded - I was eventually diagnosed with cervical dizziness (worth googling, could be your issue too, also if you have neck pain?)  A few months after diagnosis I put my neck out slightly carrying my seven-year-old above my head, and never assigned any relevance to it as the pain at the time was severe but so short-lived that I'd forgotten the connection. Jaw pain - stress. Tinnitus - I think stress, but perhaps exacerbated by iron/vitamin deficiencies. Painful ribs and sacroiliac joints - no idea, bloating made the pain worse. It got really bad but then got better. Irregular heart rate - could be a coincidence but my sister (not a coeliac) and I both developed this temporarily after our second Astra Zeneca covid jabs.   Subsequent Pfizer jabs didn't affect us. Brain fog - a big thing for people with certain autoimmune issues but in my case I think possibly worse when my iron or B12 are low, but I have no proof of this. Insomnia - stress, menopause. So basically, it isn't always gluten.  It might be worth having your vitamins and mineral levels checked, and if you have deficiencies speak to your Dr about how better to address them?    
    • knitty kitty
      @NanceK, I do have Hypersensitivity Type Four reaction to Sulfa drugs, a sulfa allergy.  Benfotiamine and other forms of Thiamine do not bother me at all.  There's sulfur in all kinds of Thiamine, yet our bodies must have it as an essential nutrient to make life sustaining enzymes.  The sulfur in thiamine is in a ring which does not trigger sulfa allergy like sulfites in a chain found in pharmaceuticals.  Doctors are not given sufficient education in nutrition (nor chemistry in this case).  I studied Nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology.  I wanted to know what vitamins were doing inside the body.   Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   Not feeling well after starting Benfotiamine is normal.  It's called the "thiamine paradox" and is equivalent to an engine backfiring if it's not been cranked up for a while.  Mine went away in about three days.  I took a B Complex, magnesium and added molybdenum for a few weeks. It's important to add a B Complex with all eight essential B vitamins. Supplementing just one B vitamin can cause lows in some of the others and result in feeling worse, too.  Celiac Disease causes malabsorption of all the B vitamins, not just thiamine.  You need all eight.  Thiamine forms including Benfotiamine interact with each of the other B vitamins in some way.  It's important to add a magnesium glycinate or chelate supplement as well.  Forms of Thiamine including Benfotiamine need magnesium to make those life sustaining enzymes.  (Don't use magnesium oxide.  It's not absorbed well.  It pulls water into the intestines and is used to relieve constipation.)   Molybdenum is a trace mineral that helps the body utilize forms of Thiamine.   Molybdenum supplements are available over the counter.  It's not unusual to be low in molybdenum if low in thiamine.   I do hope you will add the necessary supplements and try Benfotiamine again. Science-y Explanation of Thiamine Paradox: https://hormonesmatter.com/paradoxical-reactions-with-ttfd-the-glutathione-connection/#google_vignette
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.