Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Confused About An Almost-Diagnosis


kota

Recommended Posts

kota Rookie

Hello, I'm new to the forum and not sure if similar things have been posted...but I'm a bit confused about what to think of my 'almost' diagnosis.

Last spring/summer I was tested (blood test) for celiac disease. While I was waiting for the results, I looked up some information about celiac and thought "wow, that so sounds like me!" I cut out gluten for 3 days, and started to feel better - but my blood test came back negative. I told my doctor about cutting out gluten, and asked for a referral to a dietitian. I did an elimination diet and sure enough dairy (which I already knew) and wheat made me sick.

I got about 75% better on a gluten free diet - and I finally just had an endoscopy/colonoscopy to confirm it and check for any other issues. I didn't eat gluten prior to the endoscopy, which I knew I should have - but I only had a few weeks prior and who wants to purposely feel sick anyways?! The doctor's report stated:

"minimal inflammation in the duodendum. Celiac disease could account for the changes, but the changes are very mild. It is difficult to say whether you have celiac disease or not, but with negative laboratory tests, this makes it fairly unlikely"

I had been gluten-free for 9 months at the time of my endoscopy. I thought that any inflammation in the small intestine would be enough for a diagnosis - especially being that I'm not even currently eating gluten?? And don't a lot of people have negative blood tests, but are positive for celiac?

I know it seems silly to want an 'actual' diagnosis. It's just that I have family and friends who are so doubtful and think I'm just being picky, making it up or being high-maintenance. I continually get comments like "just a little bit won't hurt" or "you're not that sensitive, are you?" I feel like a real diagnosis would give me something to stand on. Has anyone else had this issue? And when I fill out medical information do I write celiac disease or gluten intolerance?

So sorry this is so long! Thanks so much for any advice - I'm so glad to finally have a place to come to ask questions!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GlutenFreeManna Rising Star

The false negative rate for the blood tests is about 20-30%. So yes you could have had it and had a false negative blood test. Not to mention there are several differnet test, so if you only had one and not the full celiac blood panel then you are not getting a full picture. Many here have been in your same situation and self-diagnosed with dietary response. Your endoscopy came out the way it did becaus eyou have not been eating gluten. Actually it's surprisign that they found any damamge at all after 9 months gluten free. Perhaps getting small amounts acidentally or from well-meaning family kept some damage active. You are going to need to decide what is more important to you--

A piece of paper that says you have celiac or being healthy.

Some people do successfully get through the gluten challenge--which ideally should be 3 months of eating the equivalent of 3-4 slices of bread daily--to get diagnosed. However I think many more people here tried and failed at eating enough gluten for testing. The most importan thting is that YOU are completely convinced that you cannot eat gluten.

Now as to your family members that are not convinced, there is NO reason for you to divulge the details of your test results. At some point you apparently had a dietician tell you to stay gluten free, correct? So all you need to do is tell the nay-sayers your DOCTOR strongly reccomended you remain strictly gluten free. You need not specify which dr or why. Just be firm and then tell them you prefer not to discuss the details of your health any more than that if they probe for info. If they insist and even go so far as to put gluten in your food but tell you it's gluten free (as some here have had happen) Then be sure that they know/see/hear every gross detail of how sick you are from that "little bit that shouldn't hurt you."

lastly, Welcome to the board! Stick around and feel free to ask questions or vent your frustrations. :)

brendab Contributor

I'm in the exact same boat as you are except this is my 2 1/2 year old son! He has the intestinal damage and inflamation and physical symptoms with nasty GI outcomes that obviously points to gluten consumption but they won't give us the diagnosis! Gaah!

Neali Rookie

You really have my sympathy! I go through the same with my 5 years old daughter.

I think the right answer is just a little will hurt a little more yes. Do you really want me/her to hurt?

I find people unsitive personnally, so fair enough if they want to label us as "that much sensitive" ;-)

The situation is not that funny though.

I think it is important enough to find out that you got inflammation from having gluten in your diet and this should be taken seriously into account.

I totally appreciate the personal need to really find out what it is, either sensitivity or celiac or intolerance because there might be other issues linked.

In the immediate though, it is important to remind ourselves that it is not always easy to know for sure, that the symptoms and damages can be the same.

Courage and perseverance.

kota Rookie

Thanks for the replies. GlutenFreeManna - I think that you're correct in saying that I am probably getting 'glutened' a lot - and that is probably why I am only feeling 75% better. I have IBS too, which could account for some discomfort - but unfortunately I know I am fighting an uphill battle. My husband thinks he is fairly understanding - and then leaves breadcrumbs everywhere, or I'll catch him absentmindedly reaching for my separate cookware for gluten food. I know he feels he's trying but really we have a long way to go before he 'gets it'.

brendab & Neali - so sorry that you are going through that for your little ones. Watching your children suffer is awful. At this point I'm glad it is me and not my two little boys that are having to deal with this! That being said - I have my suspicions about both of them....Just one more reason I was hoping for a firm diagnosis so that I could have more to back me up when I ask their pediatrician for testing. They both used to complain of frequant stomach aches, and that has noticeably reduced since at least some of their food is gluten free now. My youngest has been monitored by past docs for his slow growth, and my oldest has had fatigue and a bunch of other issues that I now realize could be attributed to gluten. I won't take them off gluten completely yet though in hopes of accurate diagnosis for them! (and honestly my husband probably wouldn't go along with it unless the doctor told us to anyways).

I'm just thankful that we live in a time when gluten is being researched more and there is more available for us. And at least I have some control over keeping myself healthy - even if it is frustrating at times!

GlutenFreeManna Rising Star

Thanks for the replies. GlutenFreeManna - I think that you're correct in saying that I am probably getting 'glutened' a lot - and that is probably why I am only feeling 75% better. I have IBS too, which could account for some discomfort - but unfortunately I know I am fighting an uphill battle. My husband thinks he is fairly understanding - and then leaves breadcrumbs everywhere, or I'll catch him absentmindedly reaching for my separate cookware for gluten food. I know he feels he's trying but really we have a long way to go before he 'gets it'.

brendab & Neali - so sorry that you are going through that for your little ones. Watching your children suffer is awful. At this point I'm glad it is me and not my two little boys that are having to deal with this! That being said - I have my suspicions about both of them....Just one more reason I was hoping for a firm diagnosis so that I could have more to back me up when I ask their pediatrician for testing. They both used to complain of frequant stomach aches, and that has noticeably reduced since at least some of their food is gluten free now. My youngest has been monitored by past docs for his slow growth, and my oldest has had fatigue and a bunch of other issues that I now realize could be attributed to gluten. I won't take them off gluten completely yet though in hopes of accurate diagnosis for them! (and honestly my husband probably wouldn't go along with it unless the doctor told us to anyways).

I'm just thankful that we live in a time when gluten is being researched more and there is more available for us. And at least I have some control over keeping myself healthy - even if it is frustrating at times!

I just wanted to clarify for you that "IBS" is NOT a disease. It is a set of symptoms and describes what is happening--you're bowels are irritable. It's a diagnosis given when the docotrs don't know what is causing your symptoms. Most likely your IBS is CAUSED by your celiac disease. There is a good chance your IBS will resolve completely after a long period of being 100% gltuen free. But that DOES mena you need your husband on board. It may mean you take your entire house gluten free in order for you to be safe. I wish you luck in convincing your family to help you get healthy again!

ShelleP Newbie

Ok. So here's a ? What would they tell me to do differently for my 9 year old son if he does test positive for celiac? Is there more they can do besides tell us to avoid gluten? I'm already doing that. I can't figure out why I would torture him by giving him gluten so I can have a piece of paper that tells me what I already know. Does anyone know what we gain by having him tested and formally diagnosed?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient

Does anyone know what we gain by having him tested and formally diagnosed?

It is easier to get cooperation from the schools to keep him gluten free if you have the piece of paper from a doctor.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,543
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    yfuvhg
    Newest Member
    yfuvhg
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Beverage
      I had a very rough month after diagnosis. No exaggeration, lost so much inflammatory weight, I looked like a bag of bones, underneath i had been literally starving to death. I did start feeling noticeably better after a month of very strict control of my kitchen and home. What are you eating for breakfast and lunch? I ignored my doc and ate oats, yes they were gluten free, but some brands are at the higher end of gluten free. Lots of celics can eat Bob's Red Mill gluten-free oats, but not me. I can now eat them, but they have to be grown and processed according to the "purity protocol" methods. I mail order them, Montana Gluten-Free brand. A food and symptoms and activities log can be helpful in tracking down issues. You might be totally aware, but I have to mention about the risk of airborne gluten. As the doc that diagnosed me warned . . Remember eyes, ears, nose, and mouth all lead to your stomach and intestines.  Are you getting any cross contamination? Airborne gluten? Any pets eating gluten (they eat it, lick themselves, you pet them...)? Any house remodeling? We live in an older home, always fixing something. I've gotten glutened from the dust from cutting into plaster walls, possibly also plywood (glues). The suggestions by many here on vitamin supplements also really helped me. I had some lingering allergies and asthma, which are now 99% gone. I was taking Albuterol inhaler every hour just to breathe, but thiamine in form of benfotiamine kicked that down to 1-2 times a day within a few days of starting it. Also, since cutting out inflammatory seed oils (canola, sunflower, grapeseed, etc) and cooking with real olive oil, avocado oil, ghee, and coconut oil, I have noticed even greater improvement overall and haven't used the inhaler in months! It takes time to weed out everything in your life that contains gluten, and it takes awhile to heal and rebuild your health. At first it's mentally exhausting, overwhelming, even obsessive, but it gets better and second nature.
    • Jsingh
      Hi,  I care for my seven year old daughter with Celiac. After watching her for months, I have figured out that she has problem with two kinds of fats- animal fat and cooking oils. It basically makes her intestine sore enough that she feels spasms when she is upset. It only happens on days when she has eaten more fat than her usual every day diet. (Her usual diet has chia seeds, flaxseeds, and avocado/ pumpkin seeds for fat and an occasional chicken breast.) I stopped using cooking oils last year, and when I reintroduced eggs and dairy, both of which I had held off for a few months thinking it was an issue of the protein like some Celiac patients habe mentioned to be the case, she has reacted in the same fashion as she does with excess fats. So now I wonder if her reaction to dairy and eggs is not really because of protein but fat.   I don't really have a question, just wondering if anyone finds this familiar and if it gets better with time.  Thank you. 
    • Chanda Richard
      Hello, My name is Chanda and you are not the only one that gose through the same things. I have found that what's easiest for me is finding a few meals each week that last. I have such severe reactions to gluten that it shuts my entire body down. I struggle everyday with i can't eat enough it feels like, when I eat more I lose more weight. Make sure that you look at medication, vitamins and shampoo and conditioner also. They have different things that are less expensive at Walmart. 
    • petitojou
      Thank you so much! I saw some tips around the forum to make a food diary and now that I know that the community also struggles with corn, egg and soy, the puzzle pieces came together! Just yesterday I tried eating eggs and yes, he’s guilty and charged. Those there are my 3 combo nausea troublemakers. I’m going to adjust my diet ☺️ Also thank you for the information about MCAS! I’m from South America and little it’s talked about it in here. It’s honestly such a game changer now for treatment and recovery. I know I’m free from SIBO and Candida since I’ve been tested for it, but I’m still going to make a endoscopy to test for H. Pylori and Eosinophilic esophagitis (EoE). Thank you again!! Have a blessed weekend 🤍
    • knitty kitty
      Yes, I, too, have osteoporosis from years of malabsorption, too.  Thiamine and magnesium are what keep the calcium in place in the bones.  If one is low in magnesium, boron, selenium, zinc, copper, and other trace minerals, ones bone heath can suffer.  We need more than just calcium and Vitamin D for strong bones.  Riboflavin B 2, Folate B 9 and Pyridoxine B 6 also contribute to bone formation and strength.   Have you had your thyroid checked?  The thyroid is important to bone health as well.  The thyroid uses lots of thiamine, so a poorly functioning thyroid will affect bone heath.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.