Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Brown Rice Intolerance - Wild Rice Ok? Other Foods To Avoid?


sreese68

Recommended Posts

sreese68 Enthusiast

I definitely do not tolerate brown rice. The first few weeks I went gluten-free, I could eat it without much trouble. But about 5 weeks into it, I reacted to Tikiyada brown rice pasta - 2 days after eating it, I had bad stomach pain for 2 days. I waited a couple of weeks and ate one serving of Lundberg brown rice to confirm that that was indeed the culprit. After 2 days, my pain came on worse than the last time and caused my constipation to get really bad - had 5 days of trouble that time. (I just discovered this week that my reaction to gluten is primarily neuro, so it wasn't an issue of CC.)

What I don't get is that I can eat white rice with no problems. I'm curious if wild rice would be an issue? Are there other foods that have something in common with brown rice that I should be very careful of? I saw a couple of things mentioned that brown rice has that white rice doesn't. One was phytic acid. But it's also in corn and peanuts, and I can eat corn products and peanut butter with no trouble. I also looked up lectin. But it's in potatoes, strawberries, and oranges, and I can eat all of those.

I certainly hope that this is an intolerance that fades the longer I'm gluten-free. It's in SO many gluten-free products!!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient

Intolerances can be funny things (not humurous, however) :( You mentioned lectins, for example. Hardly anyone is intolerant to all lectins. I am intolerant to more than most, but I handle dairy just find. You can be intolerant to a few lectins, or one or two, or only one. Sometimes it depends on how much of the particular food you eat. I used to eat a lot of nightshades. After I became intolerant of them I ate a lot of legumes - yep, you guessed it, intolerant now. Since I enjoy strong flavors I eventually became intolerant of citrus through overuse. :( I am hoping to be able to reintroduce some of these foods. Also, I haven't eaten corn that contains the outer covering for years, but I can tolerate cornstarch in baking, which is highly refined. I have no idea of its lectin content, but it might have something to do with the fact that it is combined with other foods also.

I eat white rice rather than brown rice because most of the lectins in rice are contained in the bran and I am not anxious to add rice to my no-go list. And you should have no problem with wild rice because it is a grass, a different family from regular rice.

GlutenFreeManna Rising Star

I definitely do not tolerate brown rice. The first few weeks I went gluten-free, I could eat it without much trouble. But about 5 weeks into it, I reacted to Tikiyada brown rice pasta - 2 days after eating it, I had bad stomach pain for 2 days. I waited a couple of weeks and ate one serving of Lundberg brown rice to confirm that that was indeed the culprit. After 2 days, my pain came on worse than the last time and caused my constipation to get really bad - had 5 days of trouble that time. (I just discovered this week that my reaction to gluten is primarily neuro, so it wasn't an issue of CC.)

What I don't get is that I can eat white rice with no problems. I'm curious if wild rice would be an issue? Are there other foods that have something in common with brown rice that I should be very careful of? I saw a couple of things mentioned that brown rice has that white rice doesn't. One was phytic acid. But it's also in corn and peanuts, and I can eat corn products and peanut butter with no trouble. I also looked up lectin. But it's in potatoes, strawberries, and oranges, and I can eat all of those.

I certainly hope that this is an intolerance that fades the longer I'm gluten-free. It's in SO many gluten-free products!!!

Okay a few things for you to consider:

1. Was the Tinkyada made in pans previously used for gluten pastas or drained in a strainer previously used for gltuen pastas? Did you take care to eliminate all forms of cc? And what did you eat with the Tinkyada? Any type of sauce or butter, etc.?

Althoguh your reaction may have been primarily neuro, reactions can change after goign gluten-free. I did not have any of the bad digestive symtpoms prior to goign gluten-free. Now I get the neuro symptoms AND the digestive symptoms too.

2. Lundberg is labeled gluten free, but I have read of others on this board having trouble with that brand specifically.

3. You may just not be able to digest brown rice yet. It may be somethign you just need to avoid for several months until your body heals more. However if it bothers you there's really no harm in eating white rice instead. I know people talk about how "healthy" brown rice is compared to white but really IMO that does not apply to people with issues such as celiac. Wheat is considered to be "healthy" too and we can't eat that. It's better for you to avoid foods that make you sick. With the brown rice I would avoid it for at least 6 months and then trial it to see if the reactions were the same.

sreese68 Enthusiast

Okay a few things for you to consider:

1. Was the Tinkyada made in pans previously used for gluten pastas or drained in a strainer previously used for gltuen pastas? Did you take care to eliminate all forms of cc? And what did you eat with the Tinkyada? Any type of sauce or butter, etc.?

Althoguh your reaction may have been primarily neuro, reactions can change after goign gluten-free. I did not have any of the bad digestive symtpoms prior to goign gluten-free. Now I get the neuro symptoms AND the digestive symptoms too.

2. Lundberg is labeled gluten free, but I have read of others on this board having trouble with that brand specifically.

3. You may just not be able to digest brown rice yet. It may be somethign you just need to avoid for several months until your body heals more. However if it bothers you there's really no harm in eating white rice instead. I know people talk about how "healthy" brown rice is compared to white but really IMO that does not apply to people with issues such as celiac. Wheat is considered to be "healthy" too and we can't eat that. It's better for you to avoid foods that make you sick. With the brown rice I would avoid it for at least 6 months and then trial it to see if the reactions were the same.

Thanks for the suggestions. I made the pasta in an unscratched stainless steel pot I had scrubbed VERY well. Brand new strainer only used for gluten-free food. I only used butter on the pasta and have since used buttter with no trouble. Another reason I suspect brown rice is that I had a lot of burping (unusual for me) when I first went gluten-free. When I stopped eating gluten-free bread and bagels, which had brown rice flour, the burping stopped. Then, we I felt so bad after eating the pasta, I put two and two together. I've kept a food diary the last 5 weeks, which is helping me figure all this out. (

I think I will try it again in 6 months and hope it's a temporary intolerance. I'm doing a FODMAP diet since I react to high levels of fructose and am not sure what else, so it's going to take me a LONG time to cycle through new foods anyway! LOL!

gf-soph Apprentice

A lot of people with fodmap problems can't tolerate brown rice, myself included. It's been tested safe for fodmaps but some people think they react to the small amount of fructans.

Are you a member of the yahoo group 'fructose malabsorption australia'? If not, they are a great resource.

sreese68 Enthusiast

A lot of people with fodmap problems can't tolerate brown rice, myself included. It's been tested safe for fodmaps but some people think they react to the small amount of fructans.

Are you a member of the yahoo group 'fructose malabsorption australia'? If not, they are a great resource.

I am a member of that group, thanks! I just thought i'd get the celiac point of view. :) I met with a dietician last night, and she's encouraging me to start testing foods and see how it goes.

I really look forward to the cookbooks I ordered and the flours. It's hard to make the kids gluten-free bread from the mixes I have and not be able to try it!!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,328
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    AndiSchweb
    Newest Member
    AndiSchweb
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.