Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Inconsistent Bloodwork


Mattie-Jack

Recommended Posts

Mattie-Jack Newbie

Okay, experts out there, I'm struggling with a few things. I've learned that this is truly a roller coaster ride...

My 7 year old has minor GI symptoms. Mostly constipation which flares up here and there. We've been dealing with that for about 3 years as well as anxiety and bedwetting. All three can be associated with Celiac, according to my research.

In 2010 she tested positive on the Endomysial Antibody Screen which is reportedly 100% specific for Celiac. She had a low Immunoglobulin A at that time which sometimes affects the accuracy of the test but not in this case. She had a negative biopsy.

Fastforward to 2011. She tested NEGATIVE on the Endomysial Antibody Screen through Prometheus as well as negative for TTG but positive for IgA. She has DQ8. Two CBC's revealed anemia, elevated sed rate and platelet count. 2nd biopsy and colonoscopy was normal. As far as I'm concerned, no more testing. She's been through enough.

What is the deal? Why would her Endomysial Antibody Screen change or is this common? We've been gluten free for 1 month and NO MORE BEDWETTING! For almost 8 years it was a nightly ocurance. Her younger brother with numerous stools a day had elevated IgA through Enterolab's fecal testing. I have mixed feelings about Enterolab through my research (ad nauseam) on this website and on the web. At some point, you just want resolution and medical support which seems hard to obtain!

I know some people don't feel that a physican's support is necessary but it would make me feel a lot better. Any thoughts?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



sb2178 Enthusiast

Keep that kid on a gluten-free diet!

A liberal MD would diagnose her. She's had a mixture of positive blood test results, is in a high risk group, and had positive results from treatment.

A picky one would review the biopsies well. Were they taken correctly? Were enough samples taken? Was the pathologist skilled? Did they note earlier signs, pre-flattened villi?

A somewhat sadistic one would insist on a dietary challenge, and then diagnose her as gluten sensitive or non-celiac gluten sensitive after she starts wetting the bed again.

I haven't heard of an EMA changing, but usually a positive EMA = diagnosis! Did her diet change between the two tests?

Mattie-Jack Newbie

No change in diet but the subsequent lab reports don't show what her Immunoglobulin A was at the time of the test so it is possible that that affected the outcome of the EMA. I called our GI today to schedule an appointment just to review results. I want a consultation I guess. I'd like for him to explain it all in detail and tell me why he is dismissive. I have found that he reluctantly listens and dialogues with me which is better than nothing! I feel he is the best doctor that I've been able to find in my area with regards to communication and ease of appointments. Hopefully with my persistence and research, we can come to a place where I feel comfortable and my kids are taken care of.

I also read about intraepithelial lymphocytosis and am going to ask him if he ordered tests for that during the biopsy. It seems that that is a significant piece to the villi puzzle as well.

She feels quite empowered now that she has been able to control the bed wetting. It has been such a great change. I can't wait to see how she reacts to entering a new grade in school next year. She was terribly anxious last year but now on a gluten free diet, I'm hoping to see positive changes.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      130,155
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jodie W
    Newest Member
    Jodie W
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • mermaidluver22
      @Scott Adams Thank you so much for this thoughtful and encouraging reply 💛 It really helps me feel less alone navigating all of this! I’ve definitely been strict gluten-free, but I’ll admit — in the beginning, I honestly knew nothing about cross-contamination 😅 so it’s very possible my gut is still healing from that. I feel very abnormal because I am not a typical celiac or a typical Crohn's, so it makes me feel very stuck. 
    • nanny marley
      Hi still the same unfortunately, they had to cancel my colonoscopy due to my trapped nerve , I'm awaiting some kind of scan , it was the nurses who  told me to refuse and asked a docter , and I was told to cancel and go back to my consultant , I think because my sciatic nerve is compressed between my herniated discs , the prep was enough I could handle , but the colonoscopy itself , they advised me to seek something different ,due to the position I had to be in and the movements , so I will update Wen I know more , thankyou for asking appreciated 🤗
    • Scott Adams
      It sounds like you're navigating a complex situation with your celiac disease, and it’s understandable to feel confused by the GI world! While celiac disease typically affects the duodenum and proximal small intestine, it’s possible for inflammation to extend to the ileum, especially in cases of more severe or longstanding damage. Since your tTG-IgA remains elevated despite a strict gluten-free diet, this could indicate ongoing healing or subtle gluten exposure. The ileal inflammation might still be related to celiac, though it’s good your doctor is ruling out other conditions like Crohn’s, given the nonspecific biopsy findings. Some people with celiac do report ileal involvement, particularly if they have refractory disease or delayed healing. Keeping close follow-up with your GI and possibly revisiting your diet for hidden gluten sources could help. Hang in there—it’s a journey, and you’re doing great by staying proactive!
    • mermaidluver22
      hi, how are u now? any answers?
    • mermaidluver22
      I have biopsy-confirmed celiac disease and have been strictly gluten-free, but my tTG-IgA is still elevated, so I know I'm still healing. I recently had a capsule endoscopy that showed small erosions and inflammation only in the distal ileum — nothing in the upper small intestine. My GI isn’t calling it Crohn’s yet because biopsies showed only mild, non-specific inflammation with no chronic features. Has anyone experienced celiac impacting their ileum as well? the gi world is so confusing! thank u ❤️ 
×
×
  • Create New...