Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Any Thoughts Or Ideas?


SamanthaC

Recommended Posts

SamanthaC Newbie

Hello, My name is Sam, my husband MAY have celiac.. I'm hoping to get some feedback before presenting the idea to him (let me explain why....)

Russ and I got married in 2003, (he was 19, I was 18) He would SOMETIMES throw up, but not often enough to make it a big deal, he said he had been doing it for years, so we just learned to not eat during certain times, and not certain foods.

In 2006, it started getting worse, we went to the doctor and he had blood drawn, and was told nothing was wrong, that he had acid reflux so we starting buying prolosec, EVERYTHING else that said would help

Fast forward to 2009, through 3 doctors, and 4 ER trips, Ultrasounds, x-rays, and a few Dehydrations so bad he had panic attacks.. it's getting worse and worse, sometimes 4-5 times a day. We ask (for about the 1,000 time) for a doctor to find out whats wrong. and finally, our insurance approves us to see a GI doctor. In 2010, he's had more CT scans, ultrasounds, x-rays, blood tests, and all say NOTHINGS WRONG! So they send us home with more pills, and diet restrictions NOTHING WORKS! no pills, doesn't matter spicy or not, crackers, fruit, WATER makes him throw up. The doctor told him, that (although it looks like someone SCRATCHED all down his intestines), there is nothing medically wrong with him. And he gets sent home. Again, this year I asked him to go through all of it again, more tests, more drugs, nothing works. He's had is gallbladder removed, has a hiatal hernia, enlarged spleen, and liver.

This man has never in his life had a cigarette. we RARELY drink (I say it with capitals, because the last time we drank was probably about Jan or Feb (even then it's a Smirnoff or two tops) we don't do drugs, we don't party, we are boring people with 3 little girls.

So he is tired of the doctors, the tests, the drugs that don't work. he doesn't want to do anything else (and I understand) so in my free time, I look up anything everything that can explain anything. This can't be normal. Something is going on, and doctors keep sending him home. (Yesterday for instance, between 1am and 1pm he had 4 violent vomiting episodes. We went to the ER, they did an ultrasound, gave him fluids, took blood, everything was normal so they sent us home.)

I'm wondering what you veterans of this disease think. you, your family, your friends, you know more than me. I am so frustrated watching him throw up everything, loose weight, gain weight, he doesn't sleep well, he can't eat. We stopped going out, even to see family who lives less than 10 miles away because it can happen anytime. Everyday he throws up. At LEAST 4 times a day, sometimes as many as 8. and every time we take him to the ER, to the GI, to our PCP we are told its normal or he has a virus, or my "favorite" the stomach flu! (for more than 10 years?!?!)

Anyway, I got copies of all of his records, pictures, files, blood results, and in small print, on a endoscopy from '10 it states "a mild histological manifestation of gluten sensitivity may be of these causes" To be honest, I'm WAY past asking why no one said anything about this. I just want to know if this sounds like something you guys think would be worth going forward with.

I am afraid that this is the last time he will try anything. I'm so serious, he told me yesterday he has just accepted that this will be who he is forever, I just can't stand to watch the man I am growing up with, learning how to be an adult, a parent with be in so much pain for the rest of our lives. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all for your help. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday with your families. :)

-Sam


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



beebs Enthusiast

Sounds like it could be celiac, do you know if he has been tested for it? Even if he has false negatives can happen.

SamanthaC Newbie

Sorry- Got confused on how to respond. LOL

There is a Q-Tissue Transglut AB. that was <3 (it says normal is <5.

and Q- IgA that is 166 (normal 81-463)

those are both from the endoscopy in 2010.

If those are both normal, should I just change our diets without him knowing and see if that works before binging it to him (I know it sounds bad.... But if it works, its worth it...)

beebs Enthusiast

If I were you guys I'd be finding out who the best Celiac GI doctor in your area is and getting a referral to him/her. Alot of people on here don't mind if they get a diagnosis or not and if it doesn't matter to you guys then yeah go gluten free and see if it helps - just be aware that if it is gluten he may react even worse to it after cutting it out of his diet so may never get an official diag in the future.

mommida Enthusiast

Can you post the scope pictures? Or what was the eosinophil count at? Was that even screened for?

What is his hereditary background?

"Scratched intestines"? Did I read that correctly? Does that mean there was damage that looked like deep grooves (sometimes called furrowing)?

Hernia can cause constant vommiting. Was the hernia fixed?

mommida Enthusiast

You are going to have to describe the vommit episodes. How soon after eating? Is it a lot like GERD? A small amount up into the mouth that gets swallowed back down.

The panic attack ~ was it involving chest pain? Does he ever feel like food is getting stuck in his throat? Does he cough up chunks of stuff that might look like a soggy pale corn flake?

SamanthaC Newbie

mommida-

I don't know how to post the pictures, I'll work on that. I don't know what an "eosinophil" count is. so I don't know if he was screened for it. We don't know much about his family background, his parents both have disowned their families for personal reasons, and they are not close, so we can't ask that kind of thing (his mother is "upper" British) But I know that his brother throws up a lot too.

When I look at the pictures, it looks like scratches that are dark red, inside the intestines. Like after you scratch and something has bled.

The hernia hasn't been fixed, the new GI won't do anything until he takes more tests... but I have a friend who has a hiatal hernia and says that eating small meals and chewing a lot, and not laying down helps her. but even if he has one cracker he can throw it up.

Sometimes he will throw up right after, sometimes it will be hours. But they are violent episodes, sometimes it's full chunks of food, and sometimes it just acid. It's not GERD, we were tested for that, and he doesn't have enough of the symptoms. He has never complained that food is stuck in his throat. And I'm not sure about coughing up anything.

The panic attack was because he was so dehydrated, his sodium levels were way down. (that what the report from the ER says)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Tarantula44 Apprentice

Wow...it's amazing what food can do to people. I am new here and at the beginning of this too. I have learned so far that if tests come back normal all the time and you can't find a doctor to look deeper, that you sometimes have to take matters into your own hands. But still keep searching for a doctor that specializes in celiac like others mentioned. Another idea is to have him get food allergies tested, this could bring up something worth while. One of my friends is allergic to eggs and throws up from eating anything with eggs. But food allergies affect people very differently. What is his diet like right now?

For lots here, it matters more about how you feel than a diagnosis, so some continue their search for a diagnosis, and some eliminate gluten for several months to see if symptoms change. His problems could very well be because of gluten or dairy, or both...other foods too. It sounds like he has nothing to loose by going on a gluten free diet to see if he feels better. Keep in mind though, that you need to be actively eating gluten to have a proper diagnosis, so if you go gluten free, down the line, a diagnosis may be harder, but if you know he feels better off gluten,maybe that's all that matters. Also, keep in mind that you have to be very strict about the diet, so he needs to know if you are changing his diet because if he eats a cookie or piece of toast or something with hidden gluten when you're not with him (imitation crab, grain maltodextrin, etc), the diet won't work, and he could still feel symptoms and think that gluten is not the problem. You have to STRICTLY eliminate the gluten, but there is so much information on this site and online that can help you get started. Also, google search "hidden gluten". Maybe eliminate dairy too since a lot of celiacs react similarly to dairy. You have to do the diet for at least a few months. Sometimes, it takes a long time to see relief, in my case two months before I noticed any difference. Really, it all sounds daunting, but the diet is easy to get used to, and the people on this forum are so helpful, even if you just need to vent!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,327
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    dnamutant
    Newest Member
    dnamutant
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.