Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Just Few Symptoms


dirdam

Recommended Posts

dirdam Newbie

Hi everybody,

first of all, I would like to thank the people in this forum, because I have learnt a lot reading it.

I ended up in this forum doing research about my personal situation, which I am going to explain without further ado.

Male, 30 years, having feeling tired and exhausted since 21 as far as I remember. From being a quite energetic person, me health has been degrading since then. First I thought I was becoming old, I used to smoke also so I thought everything was normal.

However, last year, my health went down even more. I passed by an stressful situation and I ended up with the same bad feeling I used to have but extremely increased. I had to quit my job, and only then is when I went to the doctors the first time.

From 21 to 29, I had:

Fatigue (all day long, no rest feeling after wake up)

Brain fog (I felt as every day I had less intellectual capacity)

Irritability

Weakness all over the body

Severe back pain without apparent reason or damage

Little bit depressed, I think because of the aforementioned.

Anyway, I managed to "live" my life during those years, which was limited basically on going to work and rest at home.

At 29, when I had that crisis, which longed around 9 months, and even I quit my job:

Extreme fatigue - I barely managed to stay awake. I was all day lay down at home.

Brain fog (I was unable to do simple thinking or even remember things I was very used to remember)

Numb feeling in legs and arms after waking up

I was sleeping around 12-14 hours day

I started to visit doctors, and I got dozens of different test. I cannot even remember how many doctors I visited, or tests I got but summarizing they found some things:

- Osteopenia (Moderate-severe) at age of 29. Low mineral density at bones.

- High iron levels. I got a genetic study and it was negative for hemochromatosis. I went for bloodletting and returned to normal.

- Some autoimmune markers high. At this time, they thought I could be suffering Lupus. I got corticosteroids with no effects. The doctors withdraw the treatment after a couple of weeks. After some time, those autoimmune markers returned to normal.

- High transaminases. I got also an eco which showed just mild fat liver.

After 9 months of recovery (no treatment) I returned to "normal" level of tiredness (which it was not normal in fact). I got a new job, but I am in the same situation of the beginning, so feeling very sick, but apparently normal under the doctors view.

So all hopes that I had of that crisis banished, because although I thought I was finally going to be diagnosed of something, I was not :-(

Few days ago, doing more and more research, I read about Celiac disease. As it has happened before, I found some similarities with what I was suffering: disease commonly misdiagnosed or not diagnosed at all, fatigue, osteoporosis, brain fog, etc.. etc... So I ordered a BioCard Celiac test. Again, I hoped to get a positive, but the result of the test was negative. I have took it 1 hour ago.

I guess there are other details, but I do not want to bore you, so I am going to go directly to the questions:

- I have read that those home test could not be very accurate in some cases. Do you think that I should go to doctor to take a full celiac panel test?

- Have you ever known/read/heard a case similar to mine?

Any comment, suggestion, or recommendation will be very appreciated.

Thank you so much :-)

PS: Sorry for my english, I am not an english-speaker.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Korwyn Explorer

The blood tests are known to have a high false negative, so I would suspect that 'home test' kits would have an even higher false negative and be highly suspicious. I would certainly see if you can get a complete blood workup which should consist of the following tests:

Anti-tissue Transglutaminase Antibody (tTG)

Anti-Gliadin Antibodies (IgA and IgG)

Total Serum IgA

Anti-endomysial antibody test (EMA-IgA)

Deamidated Gluten Peptide (DPG-IgA and DPG-IgG)

As far your question if I have ever known or heard of a similar case, yes. :) And you will probably find out from many of them first hand very soon. :)

dirdam Newbie

The blood tests are known to have a high false negative, so I would suspect that 'home test' kits would have an even higher false negative and be highly suspicious. I would certainly see if you can get a complete blood workup which should consist of the following tests:

Anti-tissue Transglutaminase Antibody (tTG)

Anti-Gliadin Antibodies (IgA and IgG)

Total Serum IgA

Anti-endomysial antibody test (EMA-IgA)

Deamidated Gluten Peptide (DPG-IgA and DPG-IgG)

As far your question if I have ever known or heard of a similar case, yes. :) And you will probably find out from many of them first hand very soon. :)

Hi Korwyn,

first of all, thanks for taking the time to answer my post.

Regarding what you mentioned, I am sure I am going to visit the doctor, but I am still thinking how to convince him/her to get those test. Good thing is that I have a couple of chances, private sector and public. I am going to do further research to present the case as clear as I can to get no rejection to the tests.

I am eager to hear the opinion of those people. Hope they pass by soon :-)

many sincere thanks!!

ciamarie Rookie

I wasn't aware there is a home test. It's probably not like a home-pregnancy test where there's a specific hormone that it can test for. I'm not sure how important it is for you to have an official diagnosis, but it sounds to me like your symptoms point to a possible gluten intolerance. One thing you could try is to avoid gluten for at least a couple of weeks and see how you feel. I know as far as 'brain fog' and feeling tired even after sleeping all night, I had improvement within days. Other issues are taking longer.

However, if you feel better without gluten, you'll need to go back to eating gluten for any test to be helpful, if you want a diagnosis. That's why I asked how important an official diagnosis is. Apparently in some parts of the world, there are some gluten-free foods that are only available with a prescription, and for that you need a diagnosis. I'm not sure if that's helpful, but you wanted other opinions so I thought I'd add mine.:)

dirdam Newbie

I wasn't aware there is a home test. It's probably not like a home-pregnancy test where there's a specific hormone that it can test for. I'm not sure how important it is for you to have an official diagnosis, but it sounds to me like your symptoms point to a possible gluten intolerance. One thing you could try is to avoid gluten for at least a couple of weeks and see how you feel. I know as far as 'brain fog' and feeling tired even after sleeping all night, I had improvement within days. Other issues are taking longer.

However, if you feel better without gluten, you'll need to go back to eating gluten for any test to be helpful, if you want a diagnosis. That's why I asked how important an official diagnosis is. Apparently in some parts of the world, there are some gluten-free foods that are only available with a prescription, and for that you need a diagnosis. I'm not sure if that's helpful, but you wanted other opinions so I thought I'd add mine.:)

Thanks for your opinion, much appreciated.

I think I am going to take the blood tests before I go through a gluten-free diet. I am managing to get an appointment as soon as the next week for that. While I am waiting for the result,s I will start the gluten-free diet. I am wondering how difficult is going to be to do it. Well, since I started to research about this, I have been checking all processed aliments I am eating and most of them are already gluten-free, even without buying them this way in purpose.

thank you again!!!

dirdam Newbie

By the way, another symptom that I forgot, and I am suffering from long time ago, is dermographism, which makes me skin so sensible that any scratch turns it red and cause urticaria in my skin. I got quite surprise when I read about this, and how somehow it might be related with celiac disease and other autoimmune disorders.

best regards!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - olivia11 replied to olivia11's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      suggest gluten free food

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

    3. - knitty kitty replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      17

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    4. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      17

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,747
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    hampiebee
    Newest Member
    hampiebee
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • olivia11
      Thanks I am mostly looking for everyday staples and easy meal ideas nothing too specialty if possible.
    • knitty kitty
      There are other Celiac genes. HLA DQ 2 and HLA DQ 8 show up in people from Northern European descent.   People of Mediterranean descent have HLA DQ 7.  People of Asian descent have HLA DQ 9.   There's other Indigenous populations that have other HLA genes that code for Celiac disease.   Are you still having symptoms?   What do you include in your diet?  Are you vegetarian? Are you taking any prescription medication?  Omeprazole?  Metformin?   Do you have anemia?  Thyroid problems? Are you taking any vitamins or herbal supplements?  
    • knitty kitty
      There are eight essential B vitamins.  They are all water soluble.  Any excess of B vitamins is easily excreted by the kidneys.   Thiamine is Vitamin B 1.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Benfotiamine and TTFD are forms of Thiamine that the body can utilize very easily.   The form of Thiamine in the supplements you mentioned is Thiamine Mononitrate, a form that the body does not absorb well and does not utilize well.  Only about thirty percent of the amount on the label is actually absorbed in the small intestine.  Less than that can actually be used by the body.  Manufacturers add thiamine mononitrate to their products because it's cheap and shelf-stable.  Thiamine and other B vitamins break down when exposed to light and heat and over time.  Thiamine Mononitrate is a form that does not break down over time sitting on a shelf waiting for someone to buy them.  What makes Thiamine Mononitrate shelf stable makes it difficult for the body to turn into a useable form.  In fact, it takes more thiamine to turn it into a useable form.   Gastrointestinal Beriberi is a localized shortage of Thiamine in the gastrointestinal tract.  High carbohydrate meals can result in gastrointestinal symptoms of Gastric Beriberi.  Fiber is a type of carbohydrate.  So, high fiber/carbohydrate snacks could trigger Gastric Beriberi.   Since blood tests for Thiamine and other B vitamins are so inaccurate, the World Health Organization recommends trying Thiamine and looking for health improvement because it's safe and nontoxic.  
    • xxnonamexx
      Thanks very interesting I have to see if I should take these 2 vitamins along with my multi and super Vit B complex or if its too much or would hurt me. I don't have any other health issues but would love to see if this improves anything especially to feel stronger build muscle.
    • Roses8721
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.