Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

2 Months Gf And Going For A Biopsy


Guest dlf1021

Recommended Posts

Guest dlf1021

I've been on the diet since late January and will be going for a biopsy next Friday (April 2). My GI told me that two months won't have any effect on the villi and if I do in fact have Celiac, there will still be evidence of it in my intestines. He made no mention of resuming a gluten diet until after the test is performed, but I'm still wondering it it would be a good idea? I just want to make sure that there's enough evidence if it is in fact Celiac.

Any advice?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



gf4life Enthusiast

I think your doctor has it backwards, so don't be surprised if your biopsy is negative. You should have been on gluten for the past two months preparing for the biopsy. Even a few days of gluten free can mess up a biopsy. Certainly your intestines could have healed a significant amount in the last two months. Our bodies are amazingly good at reparing damage quickly. The biopsy may not show enough damage to be used to diagnose Celiac.

God bless,

Mariann

Guest dlf1021

mariann,

that's what i was afraid of. he assured me that nothing would have healed "that quickly" but considering his attitude toward me and his general lack of knowledge of the disease, it wouldn't surprise me if he messed up. this whole thing is turning into drama...i feel like i'm living in some soap opera :D

warpspeed Newbie

Wow! I'm going through the exact same thing. I've been gluten-free for 2 months and am having a biopsy next Tuesday. I mentioned that it will probably be negative because of the diet and the GI doc wasn't concerned at all. He says he thinks it'll show other food intolerances. I haven't heard that before, have you? Because the gluten-free diet didn't help, he thinks I may be intolerant of many foods. I have avoided alcohol, dairy and soy also. My blood test was positive for celiac. What do you think?

warpspeed

Dwight Senne Rookie

My thinking is it would depend on your symptoms. If you showed signs of malabsorbtion (greasy, floating stools, lowered cholesterol, etc) prior to going gluten-free, this would indicate that there could have been significant villous atrophy. I doubt that would all be healed up in two months! However, if there were no signs of malabsorbtion, the endoscopic biopsy becomes more of an iffy proposal.

Your doctor may also be basing this on how long you have been symptomatic. If you have had symptoms of Celiac for many years, he may be assuming there is sufficient villous atrophy to still be present.

My only other concern would be that you may not show the doudenitis that is often associated with active Celiac. It may be there, I'm not sure - I'm not a doc. My guess is, that it would not, however.

Guest dlf1021

dewiehughie,

looking back, i guess i've had symptoms for almost 10 years. i'm really hoping that they can get an accurate read. even if the test comes back negative, there's always going to be that 'what if' factor there.

my doc didn't seem convinced that i had any symptoms of celiac at all. i don't know where he got his information from because as far as i know, i have all but DH and anemia. he also told me that celiac patients don't suffer from abdominal pain. ha.

warpspeed-

good luck with your biopsy. i hope everything turns out alright and you find the answers you are looking for!

wildones Apprentice

Why are either of you doing biopsies with doctors who don't know what they are talking about ???? If you have a positive blood test, why are you even doing a biopsy ?? A biopsy does not need to be done, as far as I know, if you already have confirmation through a blood test. I personally would not trust a doctor who does not realize that 2 months gluten free is enough to see an improvement in the damage (if any) to your villi. If I were you, I would at least ask the GI doctors you are seeing, exactly why they are doing what they are doing and how much experience they have in diagnosing and treating celiac disease.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for many doctors my kids and I have seen over the years. The ones who deserve respect are the ones who will readily admit when they really don't have an answer, but are willing either to refer you on or do some reasearch for you. I do not respect the doctors, at all, who will refuse to take a patient's complaints seriously and are dismissive of things, out of ignorance. Doctors are just like everyone else, some are very good and some are not. Doctors, just like every other professional have to earn our respect in order to retain us as patients.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



danesmom Newbie

I'm new at this (celiac disease and message boards). my 12 month old son is having his biopsy done monday. We just found out about celiac disease yesterday. The dr insisted I give him Gluten. I cry every time I feed him knowing I'm harming him. Immediately it comes right back out. I fought with the drs not to give him gluten, besides its only three days. But they insisted he MUST stay on a gluten diet to get accurate results.

I hope things work out for you.

gf4life Enthusiast

Hi Danesmom,

Welcome to the board. I am sorry to hear about your son being sick, but be thankful that your doctors seems to know what they are doing. You will be able to help your son get healthy and stay healthy! I know it is hard to keep giving him gluten knowing that it is making him sick, but it is only until Monday. Many of us have to wait months for a biopsy.

I will be keeping all of you in my prayers. I hope your biopsies show whatever they need to to be accurately diagnosed.

God bless,

Mariann :)

Guest gillian502

I hope all who have this problem get a chance to talk with their doctor, wait on having those biopsies, and go back on gluten for a while until you can then have the biopsy you need and get a proper result. It's so sad how little doctors know about our disease. Mine told me to go on and off the diet and just deal with the diarrhea, no big deal, and he said this wasn't a diet I had to remain on for life. Sometimes I am stunned by the ignorance of others. Thanks God I knew more than my doctor on this subject, can you imagine if I didn't? I would've gone back to gluten and then maybe developed a secondary autoimmune disease or lymphoma that could've killed me. I just will never understand why it is that if these people don't know the answer to something, they don't go research it and find out, rather than giving advice that could risk our lives. If I had gotten this disease before the advent of the internet I wouldn't know nearly as much and I shudder to think where I might be! If you think you can stand the gluten, please go back to it and wait for the biopsy...and yes, DO have the biopsy...the medical community will never consider you a Celiac until you do.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    4. - trents replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,019
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Nancy Adams
    Newest Member
    Nancy Adams
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.