Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

How Important Is The Biopsy?


kaysol

Recommended Posts

kaysol Rookie

I am FINALLY meeting with a GI Dr. on Tues after waiting over a month to get in.

all 3 of my blood tests came back positive for celiac. My meeting Tuesday is just a consultation - they wouldnt even let me schedule the biopsy until I meet with him. I am so worried that it might take another month to get the biopsy done and I am getting sicker by the day. The past 3 weeks have been terrible, my stomach keeps gettting bigger and bigger (I actually look pregnant), I go between terrible consipation and then to diarehha and wake up at night with horrible pains in lower intestines. I guess my question is, if they can't get me in any time soon should I just say forget the biopsy and go with the blood test diagnosis? Could anything else make the the labs posative other than celiac? I am hating that I have to eat gluten and knowing that I could feel so much better. I feel like my life is on hold and I am so scared that something else could be wrong due to the disstention and horrible pains. My numbers on the blood work were all very high (IGA was 144 and my IGG was 111 and the other one was positive although I don't know the #'s also my cholesteral and iron were very low - 150 and 8). I am trying to prepare myself for the possibility that I might be told I have to eat gluten for another month or longer and I am wondereing if I would be safe saying forget it. Can these numbers mean anything else? I am so depressed and scared right now. I didnt really have many syptoms until recently but I feel like I keep gettting sicker by the day. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Stephanie


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Guest jhmom

Hi Stephanie, I am sorry you feel bad and are still going through the diagnosis process. It can be hard to make decisions about our health especially when we feel bad and just want to feel better. We trust our doctors and what they recommend but if it were me and my blood tests came back positive I would not go through with the biopsy, I would immediately begin the gluten-free diet. One thing to think about is sometimes blood test can be positive and biopsies can be negative and vice versa, so just keep that in mind.

Feel better soon :rolleyes: Take care

tarnalberry Community Regular

It's a personal decision. I am not biopsy diagnosed, but my doctor was willing to go on inconclusive blood tests and positive dietary challenge. But it's really a personal decision. You might have very little intestinal damage (though I'd doubt it from the low iron count), but at the least the blood tests say your immune system reacts to gluten.

SteveW Rookie

Going through the diagnosis process is not fun. It took me around 3 1/2 months of hell before I was confirmed to have Celiac Disease. But I also had a colonoscopy and was told I had some irritation in my colon and that I might have Crohns as well as Celiac. Turns out that I do have a mild case of Crohns. So I guess I'm saying in my case it was worth to get the biopsy. If you choose to go with a biopsy make sure that you get a colonoscopy at the same time. All these intestinal disorders have similar symptoms so the best way is to go in and check them all out.

CarolynM Newbie

Weighing in on the "skip the biopsy" side! With only positive antigliadin, we reluctantly went with the doc's recommendation and did the biopsy. ( I was ready to try gluten-free seeing obvious reactions to pastas, pancakes) It postponed getting by daughter healthy by nearly 3 months.

After waiting for an appointment then the biopsy. We were told everything was completely within normal range after the biopsy. She got worse and I decided to go gluten-free without the doc. It took only 3 days to see improvement - solid stools and sleeping much better. Now a month later, I wish I had skipped the anxiety of the biopsy and the $6000+, and still coming, in medical bills that thankfully, our insurance is paying 80%.

I say try your own test with a gluten-free diet. You can always go back to the doc for tests if you don't improve.

ryeanddiet Rookie

Hi Stephanie

I'd vote for 'get the diagnosis'. Several on the board have gotten relatively quick tests from enterolab and had the results accepted by their GI/GP, if your Dr won't confirm the diagnosis just with the blood test, ask if he/she would accept this.

I don't have that option living in Canada. I had positive blood so went gluten-free only (I felt better than I ever have in my life, all symptoms disappeared, all anemias turned around) to have the GI tell me 8 months later they wouldn't confirm celiac without the biopsy. I want the formal, medical diagnosis so Dr's will keep an eye out for associated illness, my children will get tested, etc.

I'm now back on gluten in preparation for the biopsy and am more sick than I was before. I know it's not fun but my opinion would be to get the diagnosis (unless you don't care and it's unbareable, in which case try to find a more sympathetic Dr and go gluten-free).

If your GI insists on a scope, there may be options. I'm paying to go to a higher end private clinic just so I don't have to wait the 9 months for the appt (I'm in Canada, public health care takes longer).

Best of luck. Fingers crossed.

jen

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Scott Adams replied to MicG's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test interpretations

    2. - trents replied to MicG's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test interpretations

    3. - suek54 replied to Kayla S's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      4

      Need advice for some relief!

    4. - MicG replied to MicG's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test interpretations

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,655
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Coop12
    Newest Member
    Coop12
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Based on those results alone, it’s not possible to say you have celiac disease. The test that is usually most specific for celiac, tTG-IgA, is negative in your results, and the endomysial antibody (EMA) is also negative, which generally argues against active celiac disease. However, your deamidated gliadin IgA is elevated, and your total IgA level is also high, which can sometimes affect how the other antibody tests behave. Another important factor is that you were reducing gluten before the test, which can lower antibody levels and make the results less reliable. Because of that, many doctors recommend a gluten challenge (eating gluten regularly for several weeks) before repeating blood tests or considering an endoscopy if symptoms and labs raise concern. It would be best to review these results with a gastroenterologist, who can interpret them in context and decide whether further testing is needed.
    • trents
      Since you compromised the validity of the antibody testing by experimenting with gluten withdrawal ahead of the testing, you are faced with two options: 1. Reintroduce significant amounts of gluten into your diet for a period of weeks, i.e., undertake a "gluten challenge". The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat-based bread) for at least two weeks leading up to the day of testing. Note: I would certainly give it more than two weeks to be sure. 2. Be willing to live with the ambiguity of not knowing whether gluten causes you problems because you have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). There is no test for NCGS. Celiac disease must first be ruled out and we have tests for it. Celiac disease has an autoimmune base. NCGS does not. GI symptoms overlap. In the early stages of celiac disease, other body systems may not be showing stress or damage so, symptomatically, it would be difficult to distinguish between celiac disease and NCGS. Both conditions require elimination of gluten from the diet for symptom relief. Some experts feel that NCGS can be a precursor to celiac disease.
    • suek54
      Hi Kayla Huge sympathies. I was diagnosed in December, after 8 months of the most awful rash, literally top to toe. Mine is a work in progress. Im on just 50mg dapsone at the moment but probably need an increased dose to properly put the lid on it. As you have been now glutened, I wondered whether it might be worth asking for a skin biopsy to finally get a proper diagnosis? Sue  
    • MicG
      I had been eating reduced gluten until about 3 days before the test. I did realize that wasn’t ideal, but it was experimental to see if gluten was actually bothering me. One slip up with soy sauce and it was quite clear to me that it was, lol. 
    • trents
      Possibly. Your total IGA (Immunoglobulin A, Qn, Serum) is actually high so you are not IGA deficient. In the absence of IGA deficiency, the most reliable celiac antibody test would be the t-Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA for which your score is within normal range. There are other things besides celiac disease that might cause an elevated DGP-IGA (Deamidated Gliadin Abs, lgA) for which you do have a positive score. It might also be of concern that your total IGA is elevated as that can indicate some other health problems, some of which are serious.  Had you been practicing a gluten free or a reduced gluten free diet prior to the blood draw? Talk to your physician about these things. I would also seek an endoscopy/biopsy of the small bowel to check for damage to the villous lining, which is the gold standard diagnostic test for celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.