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[BRUMI1968]

I've been doing the low fomap diet with amazing success (way less bloating, farting, etc.) I am having trouble getting enough fiber, because I also go grain free for the most part (teeth hurt when I eat brown rice, and just do better grain free all in all, so that is a bit of an issue for me that I'm working on. Here is my question:


If aduki/adzuki beans are fermented into MISO, are the sugars in them that would otherwise bother me (fodmap) be already digested up by the bacterias in the miso. This is soy free miso, and gluten free miso. I am trying it out to see how I do on it, I just wondered what you all thought about it. Logically, it seems that miso would be okay on low fodmap - okay as the only way to eat beans. Also, if fermenting does eat sugars, couldn't fermenting other veggies that are off limits also make them back on limits? Hmmmmmm.

Also, why does the low fodmap diet lady say you can eat peanuts when they are a legume? Seems odd to me. I don't really go with the book; rather just got a list of the foods online and eliminated them all - have not officially added any back but have noticed right away with garlic, onions, and beans, the times I did "cheat".

Thanks for your thoughts.

[WheatChef]

I'm somewhat confused by the general concept of the FODMAP diet. While reducing free fructose consumption is always a great step to take in any diet, avoiding foods that feed bacteria doesn't seem like the best long term idea for digestive health. Without healthy internal bacteria we are nothing, and prebiotics are FODMAPs! Many FODMAPs are specifically used to increase digestive health by favoring the growth of beneficial bacteria in your guts. I think they need to look more at how the diet affects gut bacteria balance more. Would starving both the good and bad gut bacteria really be a good long term treatment?

[cassP]

wheatchef- those are great questions... idk the answers.. im hoping that following the FODMAP could possibly be temporary... cause its very limiting for me.. but the pain is excruciating- even worse than gluten-

1st poster- im not sure what your intolerances are- but ive heard nothing but the best things about fermented foods like fermented soy products & kimchi, etc.. they're supposed to be huge anticarcinogenic.

[gf_soph]

With the FODMAP diet, it seems that people have very different tolerance levels, so even if there is a little of the sugars left in miso it may be below the level that would cause problems. I would expect that fermentation will reduce the amount of sugars, but there still may be some. I have heard of people on the fructose malabsorption list fermenting veggies with some success, so it might help you.

I asked the people at the yahoo group about the best legumes to try, and they suggested red lentils, soaked overnight in water and a little bicarb soda. This brings the level of raffinose, the problem sugar, down a lot. This is verified by testing the raffinose before and after testing, so it's well worth trying.

I'm not sure about peanuts specifically, but if you are talking about Sue Shepherd then her recommendations are based on testing the foods, so I would always trust her if you have conflicting information.

From my reading it is possible to be sensitive to some but not all fructans, the only way to know for sure is to test it out. There are still plenty of veggies left that you can eat for fibre, so I would check out the latest list from Sue Shepard and try to increase the allowed veggies.

[EighthRann]

I think I may agree with WheatChef. I just started a strict gluten free, fructose free, and lactose free diet, and I'm so bloated and my digestion isn't the same. I'm bloated than ever before because I have all this food stuck in my belly. At least when I ate regularly I had a normal bowel movement, but now I don't. It seems like this diet isn't really working for me so far. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. At least I was less bloated before, tho by the end of the day that was a different story. I guess I'll just always be bloated, and all this 'special dieting' just doesn't seem to work (I feel like I'm gaining weight actually o_o; )