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Fodmaps Vs Paleo

Serielda

By Serielda
in Coping with Celiac Disease

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Serielda Enthusiast
Serielda
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So one of my other posts shows that I am being  heavily urged to  go Paleo post surgery to help me out after a big bag of crazy that  transpired this past weekend. So please pretend that I am a newbie as I am when it comes to  Paleo and  fodmaps which sound very similar.   Does anyone have or know online any info that will help me  not be sitting up  googling like a boss as I am still kind of ouchy. It would be a great help thank you in advance.

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GottaSki
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They are different.

Here is an link that show foods on clear DO and DON'T lists for FODMAP.

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The best way I can explain FODMAP is gluten free plus other foods that are believed to exacerbate the symptoms often called IBS or SIBO.

The terms of Paleo are often argued amongst the primal and paleo folks, but if you stick with whole foods of meat, veggies, nuts and fruits (that you tolerate well) it can be helpful while a digestive system is healing.

For me, by the time FODMPs was suggested there were already many of allowed foods I could no longer tolerate. I'm not strictly paleo, but my diet of meat, veggies, small quantity of fruits and almonds falls closest to what is known as Paleo.

icelandgirl Proficient
icelandgirl
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Ooh...good thread! I was just thinking about asking if anyone has tried any or all of: SCD/FODMAPS/Paleo...and what they believe has worked for them. What did or didn't work, etc. Still trying to figure out the rest of my issues.

Serielda Enthusiast
Serielda
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Thank you for replies so far.

GottaSki Mentor
GottaSki
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Hang in there :)

icelandgirl Proficient
icelandgirl
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Great link Lisa...thanks for sharing that.

Have you decided anything yet Serielda? I've cut so much food out trying to figure out what bothers me...The list for FODMAPS has quite a bit on it that you can eat still. I may try it.

GottaSki Mentor
GottaSki
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You are welcome.

 

In my opinion, those that do not improve with strict removal of gluten after six months need to find what the right group of foods is for them.  It took me nearly four years to find the optimum foods for me....beyond frustrating, but worth the effort.

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Serielda
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I am  doing more  research than a freaking scientist does I feel at the moment. I keep saying onward and upward but wow.. Just when you feel you figure this mess out,,, bam!!

You are welcome.

 

In my opinion, those that do not improve with strict removal of gluten after six months need to find what the right group of foods is for them.  It took me nearly four years to find the optimum foods for me....beyond frustrating, but worth the effort.

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GottaSki
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I am  doing more  research than a freaking scientist does I feel at the moment. I keep saying onward and upward but wow.. Just when you feel you figure this mess out,,, bam!!

 

Been there, done that and still am. 

 

I could have written your exact post many times...as recently as a year ago.

 

For better or worse we have learned to never think we have solved the complete puzzle...I have had three major periods of improvement since diagnosed with Celiac Disease in 2009.  Each was followed with a flare that was worse than any previous flare which made us beyond frustrated that each time we thought we had the solution I was struck back down.

 

What I have learned after the last two periods that I call my "Human Amoeba" stages (months of severe flare and brain fog that becomes brain numb along with loss of all use of muscles and tremendous joint pain) that I need to accept making adaptations to my world while continuing to research and work with the best doctors I can find to gain more usable hours in the day.

 

How's that for a bummer?  Amazingly, I remain extremely hopeful and eager to learn as much as I can about how this silly body of mine works -- added bonus is my kids and grands all have symptoms similar to mine throughout my life so I am excited that their lives will be greatly improved by what I continue to learn.

 

Hang in there and keep researching...none of us is identical, but many of us have common symptoms and issues.  You aren't alone in this struggle.

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Serielda
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First I want to make this clear, I am not trying to come across as a whiner, or looking a sympathy hound aka sob sister, that is not my m.o. However where I live in Louisiana food is a big part of get togethers, but alchol is a massive one over food.  I was rejoicing that there was products like New Planet on the market and sold here in a number of places but with  current events now even that is taken away( or it seems). I do not have a drinking problem as I am not really a drinker exept on new years and once in a while occassions that are trust me precious few, as I am a advocate for moderation and if the event seems worthy of a toast or what not. I know I am preaching to the chior on this but this just flat out bites the big one.  When the celiac diagnosis came forward it wasn't so hard as I was a vegan until this nightmare, so that helped with the food angle. But now its like ok so what do I get to do at social events?

Been there, done that and still am. 

 

I could have written your exact post many times...as recently as a year ago.

 

For better or worse we have learned to never think we have solved the complete puzzle...I have had three major periods of improvement since diagnosed with Celiac Disease in 2009.  Each was followed with a flare that was worse than any previous flare which made us beyond frustrated that each time we thought we had the solution I was struck back down.

 

What I have learned after the last two periods that I call my "Human Amoeba" stages (months of severe flare and brain fog that becomes brain numb along with loss of all use of muscles and tremendous joint pain) that I need to accept making adaptations to my world while continuing to research and work with the best doctors I can find to gain more usable hours in the day.

 

How's that for a bummer!  Amazingly, I remain extremely hopeful and eager to learn as much as I can about how this silly body of mine works -- added bonus is my kids and grands all have some symptoms to mine throughout my life so I am excited that their lives will be greatly improved by what I continue to learn.

 

Hang in there and keep researching...none of us is identical, but many of us have common symptoms and issues.  You aren't alone in this struggle.

icelandgirl Proficient
icelandgirl
Posted

I am  doing more  research than a freaking scientist does I feel at the moment. I keep saying onward and upward but wow.. Just when you feel you figure this mess out,,, bam!!

I do the same thing...I'm always researching...trying to figure out something. It's exhausting...but if I figure out anything that helps it will be worth it.
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GottaSki
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I drink Red Wine with no issue...suprisingly as it is high in histamine, but I don't question it...I just enjoy it :)

 

Have you already lost other alcohols like vodka?

 

And you aren't a whiner because you are frustrated, but same rule...keep trying to find something that works with your body.

 

Glad to hear you are able to attend social events...it's been difficult for me to attend anything after 3pm for most of the last 15 years so I celebrate every time I can go out...with or without wine in tow ;)

 

First I want to make this clear, I am not trying to come across as a whiner, or looking a sympathy hound aka sob sister, that is not my m.o. However where I live in Louisiana food is a big part of get togethers, but alchol is a massive one over food.  I was rejoicing that there was products like New Planet on the market and sold here in a number of places but with  current events now even that is taken away( or it seems). I do not have a drinking problem as I am not really a drinker exept on new years and once in a while occassions that are trust me precious few, as I am a advocate for moderation and if the event seems worthy of a toast or what not. I know I am preaching to the chior on this but this just flat out bites the big one.  When the celiac diagnosis came forward it wasn't so hard as I was a vegan until this nightmare, so that helped with the food angle. But now its like ok so what do I get to do at social events?

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GottaSki
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ps...for those reading along...most folks improve with the complete removal of gluten within the first year.

 

for some it can take more to heal the damage caused by celiac disease...once this happens they usually get many more foods back in their diets.

NoWhammies Newbie
NoWhammies
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I've written cookbooks for both Paleo and FODMAP. While there are similarities, FODMAP is actually more restrictive than paleo in a lot of ways. However, the good thing about FODMAP is you do it for about four to six weeks as an elimination diet, and then you slowly begin reintroducing food groups again to see what you tolerate. Paleo is, of course, a lifestyle. I would actually do this: go Paleo FODMAP at the same time. Stay that way for about four weeks. Then, reintroduce the FODMAP groups one at a time, about a week per group, to see if you have any reaction. That would be my suggestion, since the two are not mutually exclusive.

icelandgirl Proficient
icelandgirl
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Hi Nowhammies...have you done FODMAPS? If so...what did you figure out? I'm really thinking about trying this because I think it may be part of my puzzle. In recent times both pears and watermelon have made me very bloated. Also...since you write cookbooks...is there one you could recommend for this plan?

NoWhammies Newbie
NoWhammies
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Luckily I haven't needed to, but I did write a low-FODMAP cookbook, so I'm quite familiar with the system. If my symptoms hadn't cleared after I made sure there was no cross contamination, then low-FODMAP was next. I do think it's a good plan that works for a lot of people.

icelandgirl Proficient
icelandgirl
Posted

Can you recommend a cookbook to get started?

icelandgirl Proficient
icelandgirl
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Thanks for the recommendations NoWhammies.  My library has the book by Sue Shepard.  I put it in my holds.  I'm number 7 in queue for it, but hopefully it will come soon.

BoJonJovi Newbie
BoJonJovi
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Here is my diet. Call it Paleo if you want. I am a bit pale so I guess it might fit whatever it is. 

I try to eat real food. About the only thing I eat that is processed is occasionally I eat Blue corn chips from Garden of Eating. They are non-gmo, gluten free. I also occasionally indulge in a bowl of ice cream. 

I have a few rules I loosely follow but are predominated by:

Make it real food. 
Make it food that is alive meaning it will naturally spoil fairly rapidly on its own. Live enzymes. 

Nothing with corn syrup, fructose, glucose. This is more of a rage against the machine. I don't believe our government should subsidize something that makes Americans sick and obese. 

No more than 5 ingredients if buying something pre-made.  

I don't trust gluten free fair from restaurants that are not all in. If a youngster that has not been properly trained cuts a wheat bun then cuts mine, the kid just got me. If they stir a pot of soup then serve my veggies with that spoon, they got me. 

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