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cmoore Apprentice

A cousin who was diagnosed with Celiac was visiting her family in Greece.  In her case she can get either VERY uncomfortable to pretty sick when she has gluten.

She had not visited Greece since the diagnosis.  Family uses locally grown semolinaorganic, non GMO grain for their pasta.  A small bite then, more then a meal and she was shocked that she did not have a reaction to it.

I don’t pretend that everyone could do this since gluten is involved,  but this is someone I know, and I think there is more to all of this then we think.  The more I hear about staying organic and non GMO (generally) the more I think I need to stay that way as much as possible, in everything I eat. 

 


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GMO or not the gluten protein sequence is the same in both plants if they are wheat based. Some celiacs react to different levels to different strains of gluten containing grains, IE, barley, rye, and different strains of wheat. What they all have in common is that they all cause the antibodies to rise in the background and our immune system to attack our organs/intestines. While it may not be as noticeable I will guarantee that your cousin was damaging her insides when she ate that. NOW it is true that GMO versions, pesticide sprayed versions, and chemical treated versions could cause much more noticeable adverse effects, this is just a reaction to something else on top of the celiac....it is Celiac, a autoimmune disease, other issues, sensitivities, and odd immune system issues have a MUCH higher prevalence in us. -_- I vomit if I eat plants sprayed with that waxy stuff that most produce gets coated with to preserve it...I have to eat fresh, organic, or frozen and canned to avoid it by example.

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Wheat is not GMO. It was hybridized through growing practices several decades ago to be disease resistant, shorter and grow more to an acre. The ensuing wheat is significantly higher in gluten content as a (possibly unintended) result. 

There are still non-hybrid wheat varieties that are common in that part of the world. They are lower in gluten, but still contain gluten. 

The fact that she normally reacts and didn’t this time is not a reliable indicator of an immune response or whether damage was caused. Perhaps her stronger, obvious reactions are related to pesticides, but it doesn’t mean eating lower gluten organic wheat is safe. I hope you can pass on a note of caution. 

kareng Grand Master
2 hours ago, RebekahLynn said:

Wheat is not GMO. It was hybridized through growing practices several decades ago to be disease resistant, shorter and grow more to an acre. The ensuing wheat is significantly higher in gluten content as a (possibly unintended) result. 

There are still non-hybrid wheat varieties that are common in that part of the world. They are lower in gluten, but still contain gluten. 

The fact that she normally reacts and didn’t this time is not a reliable indicator of an immune response or whether damage was caused. Perhaps her stronger, obvious reactions are related to pesticides, but it doesn’t mean eating lower gluten organic wheat is safe. I hope you can pass on a note of caution. 

I agree with this.  Wheat is not GMO. In fact, a lot of food is not GMO but they love to advertise that fact ! 

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