Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

I don’t understand


Solafide3

Recommended Posts

Solafide3 Apprentice

Hi everyone,

I apologize if this is a long post, but I am in desperate need of help. I started having neurological symptoms in Dec 2018. Muscle twitching, muscle weakness, balance problems, joint and muscle pain. Became TERRIFIED of ALS. Went to the neurologist. She did a blood test and diagnosed me with Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity.

1.This is where my first problem starts. Other doctors have told me that NCGS isn’t real. I have also read the blood tests aren’t reliable, but this neurologist is swearing by it?

2.I admit I haven’t managed to stay gluten free for a whole 2 weeks yet. It seems that my muscle twitching (I have no vitamin deficiencies) gets way worse when I stop eating gluten, and gets better when I reintroduce gluten. Is this some sort of weird withdrawal?

3.I have a dull ache that only happens on the right side of my body. On my palm, my butt bone, and bottom of my foot. It also feels like my ankle and wrist are weak when I walk. Does anybody else have this?

I will be so grateful if someone can answer these questions. I live in Alabama and unfortunately gluten free is laughed at around here which has led me to believe I have ALS even though I have had 2 clean EMGs. I don’t mean to be dramatic but I just can’t function with this worry. Thank you

Erica


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cyclinglady Grand Master

Welcome!  

I am sorry you are struggling.

There is no test for Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity (or Intolerance).  Doctors usually come to a NCGS diagnosis after firmly ruling out celiac disease (blood tests and intestinal biopsies).  Blood tests alone are not enough since some celiacs (about 10%) have negative blood tests yet still have intestinal damage.  The celiac rash, Dermatitis Herpetiformis can also be hard to get positive blood tests.  

Your doctor may be suspecting Gluten Ataxia.  GS is relatively new and you are lucky your doctor has considered it.  

It does not hurt to trial the diet.  It will not harm you unless you eat gluten-free junk food.  Focus on non-processed foods as much as possible and DO NOT EAT OUT until you see improvement.  Gluten Ataxia damages the neurological system which takes much longer to heal.  Most celiacs take a year to heal due to learning the diet. Ataxia and DH sufferers can take much longer.  But you can get well.  If you have Gluten Ataxia, at least it is treatable — no gluten.  

Many celiacs have withdrawals from gluten.  It gets better within a few weeks.  I think you need to be patient which is really hard.  

Learn all that you can about the diet and you have to be really strict from what I read.  What am I saying?  I consider myself to be very strict since active celiac flare ups impact or aggravate my other autoimmune disorders. 

Eating a clean gluten-free diet might help you even if you do not have ataxia.  Check out the Autoimmune Paleo Diet too.  It is gluten free and seems to help people who are ill.  Good food can not hurt.  No bad side effects!  

I sincerely hope you do not have ALS.  

 

 

Ennis-TX Grand Master
3 hours ago, Solafide3 said:

Hi everyone,

I apologize if this is a long post, but I am in desperate need of help. I started having neurological symptoms in Dec 2018. Muscle twitching, muscle weakness, balance problems, joint and muscle pain. Became TERRIFIED of ALS. Went to the neurologist. She did a blood test and diagnosed me with Non-Celiac Gluten Sensitivity.

1.This is where my first problem starts. Other doctors have told me that NCGS isn’t real. I have also read the blood tests aren’t reliable, but this neurologist is swearing by it?

2.I admit I haven’t managed to stay gluten free for a whole 2 weeks yet. It seems that my muscle twitching (I have no vitamin deficiencies) gets way worse when I stop eating gluten, and gets better when I reintroduce gluten. Is this some sort of weird withdrawal?

3.I have a dull ache that only happens on the right side of my body. On my palm, my butt bone, and bottom of my foot. It also feels like my ankle and wrist are weak when I walk. Does anybody else have this?

I will be so grateful if someone can answer these questions. I live in Alabama and unfortunately gluten free is laughed at around here which has led me to believe I have ALS even though I have had 2 clean EMGs. I don’t mean to be dramatic but I just can’t function with this worry. Thank you

Erica

I have celiac but ignored the issues til I started having gluten ataxia issues. It really is the scariest thing in the world when your own body does not react like it should and starts turning against you and bugging out. My damage became quite severe, I lost the ability to do some things I even went to college for, I lost some feelings for hot/cold and touch in my extremities for a few years, and some other things. There are some withdrawal issues and it seems get better and worse off and on. One thing to consider is that many Gluten foods are fortified with B-vitamins, Magnesium, etc. These extra vitamins can help cover symptoms, gluten free food is not fortified so you need to eat a rounded whole food diet and or supplement for B-vitamins, Vitamin D, and especially Magnesium if your having nerve issues.

I was adopted and in my small town in Texas I am sort of the odd ball out, and lost many friends and extended family. I have found a few local people who also have issues with gluten when I started selling gluten free and paleo baked goods and meals at farmers markets. I found these forums, local celiac support groups, etc. Many Celiac groups also have NCGS people in them as they also have to adhere to a gluten free diet.

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      8

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

    2. - Roses8721 posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      0

      gluten-free Oatmeal

    3. - Roses8721 replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      8

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

    4. - Scott Adams replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      5

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Xravith's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Challenges eating gluten before biopsy


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,474
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Silk tha Shocker
    Newest Member
    Silk tha Shocker
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Certainly, it would b wise to have a gene test done if your physician is open to it as it would provide some more data to understand what's going on. But keep in mind that the genetic test for celiac disease cannot be used as to diagnose celiac disease, only to establish the potential to develop active celiac disease. About 40% of the general population possess one or both of the primary genes known to be associated with the development of active celiac disease but only about 1% of the population actually develop active celiac disease. So, the gene test is an effective "rule out" tool but not an effective diagnostic tool.
    • Roses8721
      Had Quaker gluten-free oatmeal last night and my stomach is a mess today. NO flu but def stomach stuff. Anyone else?
    • Roses8721
      So you would be good with the diagnosis and not worry to check genetics etc etc? Appreciate your words!
    • Scott Adams
      As recommended by @Flash1970, you may want to get this: https://www.amazon.com/Curist-Lidocaine-Maximum-Strength-Topical/dp/B09DN7GR14/
    • Scott Adams
      For those who will likely remain gluten-free for life anyway due to well-known symptoms they have when eating gluten, my general advice is to ignore any doctors who push to go through a gluten challenge to get a formal diagnosis--and this is especially true for those who have severe symptoms when they eat gluten. It can take months, or even years to recover from such a challenge, so why do this if you already know that gluten is the culprit and you won't be eating it anyway?  Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If your symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet it would likely signal NCGS--but those in this group will usually have negative tests, or at best, elevated antibodies that don't reach the level of official positive. Unfortunately test results for celiac disease are not always definitive, and many errors can be made when doing an endoscopy for celiac disease, and they can happen in many ways, for example not collecting the samples in the right areas, not collecting enough samples, or not interpreting the results properly and giving a Marsh score.  Many biopsy results can also be borderline, where there may be certain damage that could be associated with celiac disease, but it just doesn't quite reach the level necessary to make a formal diagnosis. The same is true for blood test results. Over the last 10 years or so a new "Weak Positive" range has been created by many labs for antibody results, which can simply lead to confusion (some doctors apparently believe that this means the patient can decide if they want more testing or to go gluten-free). There is no "Weak Negative" category, for example. Many patients are not told to eat gluten daily, lots of it, for the 6-8 week period leading up to their blood test, nor asked whether or not they've been eating gluten. Some patients even report to their doctors that they've been gluten-free for weeks or months before their blood tests, yet their doctors incorrectly say nothing to them about how this can affect their test, and create false negative results. Many people are not routinely given a total IGA blood test when doing a blood screening, which can lead to false negative interpretations if the patient has low IGA. We've seen on this forum many times that some doctors who are not fully up on how interpret the blood test results can tell patients that the don't need to follow a gluten-free diet or get more testing because only 1 of the 2 or 3 tests done in their panel is positive (wrong!), and the other 1 or 2 tests are negative.  Dermatologists often don't know how to do a proper skin biopsy for dermatitis herpetiformis, and when they do it wrongly their patient will continue to suffer with terrible DH itching, and all the risks associated with celiac disease. For many, the DH rash is the only presentation of celiac disease. These patients may end up on strong prescriptions for life to control their itching which also may have many negative side effects, for example Dapsone. Unfortunately many people will continue to suffer needlessly and eat gluten due to these errors in performing or interpreting celiac disease tests, but luckily some will find out about non-celiac gluten sensitivity on their own and go gluten-free and recover from their symptoms. Consider yourself lucky if you've figured out that gluten is the source of your health issues, and you've gone gluten-free, because many people will never figure this out.    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.