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Kwx525 Apprentice

I just got my results back. They gave me a 37/100 rating/not optimal. They gave me a list of 19 pre/prebiotic supplements, along with other nutrients recommendations. Does anyone have any experience with viome? I'd assume it would be smart to order their prebiotic and give it a try. I attached what they recommend.

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Scott Adams Grand Master

I've never heard of them, and am not sure what these results mean. Did they run some sort of test on you? Are these the probiotics that they recommend for you? How did they determine this?

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You shouldn't have to buy probiotics or prebiotics to change your gut biome. Just change the way you eat. Of course, you'll have to learn more about what foods to turn to, but in general, it is going to be more produce and in some cases, raw produce.

I have read (a while back and I don't remember where) that the human gut biome has changed in recent history, has become less diverse and seems to be lacking certain key bacteria compared to the biome of our ancestors. But the exception is that people who eat a lot of fruits and vegetables do still have the variety and the robustness needed for overall health. 

One of the first gastroenterologists I ever saw pushed probiotics on me as a miracle cure for my abdominal issues. Of course, he completely missed the celiac diagnosis, but over the years, I have tried a few probiotic options from supplements in pill form to fermented foods such as yoghurts and kefirs. None of them work for me. They seem to throw my system out of balance. But perhaps I never needed any probiotics in the first place.

For me, adding more bacteria, even if it is healthy bacteria, seems to overwhelm the fungus (yeast). And the last thing I need is to throw off my bacteria/yeast balance (as many women know). Of course, this will vary for everyone but I suspect that a lot of us celiacs have a diet low in breads compared to the general population so we're probably also not getting as much yeast.

In general, more variety and fewer processed foods is going to result in the best health outcomes. So get excited about trying new things and cooking for yourself!

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Jonathan Scott Newbie

More important are the foods to avoid and the foods to enjoy. I have had a couple of the Viome tests and I think they are terrific. Primarily the sample of poop you sent to them as been analysed for parasites, bad bacteria and gives you an indication of gut health mine is currently around 50/100 below average. 
it took me a while to understand ALL the information gained from the test.

foods to avoid - mine shows foods with prolamin (the group name for gluten), kombucha, quinoa, etc
 

the reports can be emailed to a nutritionalist or advisor who can help you with for example a parasite cleanse if needed.

well done you are on the path to optimum gut health and understanding YOUR gut.

Scott Adams Grand Master

What science are these results based upon? Are there any studies on these tests, and how they determine what you should eat and what you should avoid?

Jonathan Scott Newbie
4 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

What science are these results based upon? Are there any studies on these tests, and how they determine what you should eat and what you should avoid?

Morning Scott - like you I like to know the science behind these type of tests - blood and poop is analysed looking at the MRNA.  I have had 2 tests and seen improvements and just about to send my 3rd test sample back - here is a quote from their website
‘All living organisms have DNA that produce molecules of RNA. We sequence the RNA inside the sample we receive from you. By doing this, it is possible to quantify and identify the microorganisms living in your gut and their function- which is key. These include viruses, parasites, yeast, fungi, archaea, bacteria, and bacteriophages at the strain and species levels. As a result, we can obtain the highest possible resolution view of the gut microbiome in your body.’

just taking medicines prescribed by a General Doctor is not the answer to health issues we are all experiences here - from my experience Viome and companies similar are helping people understand their conditions with foods to avoid and foods to enjoy, supplements (probiotics, prebiotics and vitamins) to improve the functioning of the gut

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