Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Insomnia


Beverley Ann Johnson

Recommended Posts

Beverley Ann Johnson Contributor

Does anyone suffer from constant insomnia and frequent urination at night?

Are these issues caused by gluten?

If so, what are some remedies?

 

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



knitty kitty Grand Master

@Beverley Ann Johnson,

Yes, I used to have to deal with both.   

I supplemented with high dose Thiamine, and a B Complex and Vitamin D and magnesium.  

High Dose Thiamine helped the most.  Thiamine is needed to run those automatic processes like digestion, sphincter muscle control, and waste removal.  It's also needed to regulate our internal clocks, circadian rhythms.  

Thiamine is needed to turn carbohydrates into energy.  Without enough thiamine, carbohydrates are stored as fat.  If you eat a diet high in carbohydrates, you need more thiamine to deal with the amount of carbohydrates.  

Keep in mind that most gluten free facsimile foods are not enriched with vitamins and minerals like their gluten containing counterparts, so you should buy your own vitamins.  Thiamine mononitrate, the most frequently used form of thiamine used to enrich such products, is not bioavailable.  Thiamine mononitrate is added because it has along shelf life.  It has a long shelf life because it doesn't react well with anything, including our bodies.  

I've found a combination of supplements an hour before bed that helps.  I take 1000 mg tryptophan (a form of Vitamin B3 Niacin), L-Theanine (200 mg, a naturally occurring amino acid, found in chocolate), and B 6 Pyridoxine (a low dose) and Magnesium will help muscles relax.  Thiamine and magnesium work together.  But don't take Thiamine near bed time because you may feel too energetic to sleep.

Hope this helps!

Keep us posted on your progress!

 

Beverley Ann Johnson Contributor
6 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

@Beverley Ann Johnson,

Yes, I used to have to deal with both.   

I supplemented with high dose Thiamine, and a B Complex and Vitamin D and magnesium.  

High Dose Thiamine helped the most.  Thiamine is needed to run those automatic processes like digestion, sphincter muscle control, and waste removal.  It's also needed to regulate our internal clocks, circadian rhythms.  

Thiamine is needed to turn carbohydrates into energy.  Without enough thiamine, carbohydrates are stored as fat.  If you eat a diet high in carbohydrates, you need more thiamine to deal with the amount of carbohydrates.  

Keep in mind that most gluten free facsimile foods are not enriched with vitamins and minerals like their gluten containing counterparts, so you should buy your own vitamins.  Thiamine mononitrate, the most frequently used form of thiamine used to enrich such products, is not bioavailable.  Thiamine mononitrate is added because it has along shelf life.  It has a long shelf life because it doesn't react well with anything, including our bodies.  

I've found a combination of supplements an hour before bed that helps.  I take 1000 mg tryptophan (a form of Vitamin B3 Niacin), L-Theanine (200 mg, a naturally occurring amino acid, found in chocolate), and B 6 Pyridoxine (a low dose) and Magnesium will help muscles relax.  Thiamine and magnesium work together.  But don't take Thiamine near bed time because you may feel too energetic to sleep.

Hope this helps!

Keep us posted on your progress!

 

Thanks, I have magnesium combined with D3 but the rest I have not considered.  On what degree did these vitamins help you regain normal sleep patterns and stop you from going to the loo?  How long does it take to work?

knitty kitty Grand Master
5 hours ago, Beverley Ann Johnson said:

Thanks, I have magnesium combined with D3 but the rest I have not considered.  On what degree did these vitamins help you regain normal sleep patterns and stop you from going to the loo?  How long does it take to work?

I experienced immediate improvement with high dose Thiamine.  Thiamine is one of the eight essential B vitamins.  They all work together, so taking a B Complex is beneficial.  We cannot make these B vitamins in our bodies, so we need to get them in foods or supplements.  Taking supplements ensures our bodies have plenty available for absorption while our intestines heal damaged villi.  

The combination of supplements for sleep worked for me the first time, and every time, I take them.  

Cutting back on caffeine several hours before bed will help with insomnia and nighttime bathroom trips.  

I hope this helps you find some good sleep!

Scott Adams Grand Master
On 11/21/2022 at 10:53 AM, Beverley Ann Johnson said:

Does anyone suffer from constant insomnia and frequent urination at night?

Be sure to also have your doctor test you for diabetes, as frequent urination could be a symptom, and Type 1 diabetes among celiacs is quite common.

Beverley Ann Johnson Contributor
On 11/23/2022 at 3:11 PM, knitty kitty said:

I experienced immediate improvement with high dose Thiamine.  Thiamine is one of the eight essential B vitamins.  They all work together, so taking a B Complex is beneficial.  We cannot make these B vitamins in our bodies, so we need to get them in foods or supplements.  Taking supplements ensures our bodies have plenty available for absorption while our intestines heal damaged villi.  

The combination of supplements for sleep worked for me the first time, and every time, I take them.  

Cutting back on caffeine several hours before bed will help with insomnia and nighttime bathroom trips.  

I hope this helps you find some good sleep!

Thanks, I will give this a try.

 

Beverley Ann Johnson Contributor
3 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

Be sure to also have your doctor test you for diabetes, as frequent urination could be a symptom, and Type 1 diabetes among celiacs is quite common.

Thanks Scott, would be good to get tested, it's a family illness.

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



knitty kitty Grand Master
(edited)

Thiamine deficiency is found in 86% of Diabetics (doesn't matter if Type One or Two). 

Diabetes causes more Thiamine to be excreted by the kidneys. 

 Benfotiamine has been shown to improve gastrointestinal healing and helps regulate blood sugar levels.

Edited by knitty kitty
Typo

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,447
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    AvaG
    Newest Member
    AvaG
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • FayeBr
      I would say from experience that I am definitely reacting to gluten. I do also react to soy but slightly differently, shorter time period with tell tale signs. I appreciate all of your advice Knitty Kitty. I am low on Vitamin D and I have asked my gp about Thiamine who advised that we don’t do blood tests for that in the UK. I also feel like my thyroxine meds aren’t working correctly now too. Perhaps with the damage? But I will take your advice seriously as you live and learn so much. We all know our own bodies and we all have our own symptoms and experiences.  I am on a waiting list for an Ataxia specialist here in the UK. I must have Been Celiac long before being diagnosed as they diagnosed me with MS in 2004 and neurologist is now saying it has been Ataxia from gluten all along.  It has been a learning curve for me and it is so surprising how little is actually known about this by neurologists and other medical professionals, with some unable to even pronounce it correctly. I have studied hard over the 4 years and written to experts to gain knowledge. Having said that, this site is great to find comfort in fellow Celiacs and to feel like you’re not the only one 😊
    • FayeBr
    • Yvonne Ayers Albers
      Found out the the HCTZ doesn't have gluten in it.  But for me it made my sodium level drop so low, I ended up in hospital.  So it is gluten free, but didn't help my blood pressure levels. Everyone is different.
    • Scott Adams
    • Scott Adams
      You are right, it does say that it doesn't contain gluten: https://www.gaviscon.ie/products/gaviscon-advance-aniseed-flavor-liquid/   Is there any chance you have a sensitivity to one of its many other ingredients?  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.