Milk, raw vs pasteurised, A2 vs A1, grass vs grain fed cows.

[Liquid lunch]

I’ve been getting huge relief from drinking homemade milk kefir but still react badly to supermarket pasteurised  organic milk that’s not yet been made into kefir. Raw milk from grass fed cows seems to be ok, the cows are a 50:50 mixed herd between A2 and A1.

has anyone else been experimenting with different milks? I’m wondering if it’s because the supermarket milk is from cows that are grain fed.

[Nightshimmer]

Hello, total noob here (first post 😬), not sure how much this will help. I was born and raised on a Holstein dairy farm. All I ever had was fresh milk straight from the barn, until I left and married (over 20 years now to give you an idea). It took me years to be able to (taste wise) tolerate store bought milk, I still cringe today. A few years ago (maybe 5-7?) I was told that I had a dairy allergy to the protein in milk, I am not lactose, and I need A2 milk. Well, where we live, little podunk town, A2 was unheard of then, and Jersey farms aren’t common here. Now to jump ahead a little. I was just diagnosed with celiac a few months ago (September). Dealt with the issues my entire life, complained my entire life. Test after test after test, every single one always coming back saying I am perfectly fine, there is nothing wrong with me. It took my husband working with a celiac to open eyes and figure out what was wrong. I ended up in the ER, talked with everyone we could, went to my appointment the next day, and that is when I requested a celiac test. No, it was never suggested or mentioned before with all of my numerous appointments and tests. Blood test came back positive, upper endo and biopsy also positive. I finally had my answer. So since having no choice but to go gluten-free, we also opted to start getting only A2 milk (found at Walmart). I have noticed an actual great change since switching to A2. My stomach does not hurt nearly as bad as it did with regular store bought watered down with everything added that no one needs milk (fake milk is what I always call it 😂). My skin started to look better. I overall started to look and feel better. We have had only A2 since at least October, with almost immediate positive results! But, if I have a choice between fresh milk straight from the barn, or A2, I will ALWAYS choose my fresh milk. ☺️ I sneak a glass or 2 when visiting my parents. Hope this helps in anyway. And sorry for the ramble lol 

[Wheatwacked]

Most commercial dairies add palmitic acid to the feed because it increases milk fat and volume by about 25%. But it only increases the C:16 not the C:18 fats. What this means is that commercial milk has a omega 6 to omega 3 ratio of 5:1. Organic milk is 3:1 and pasture fed only is 1:1. Omega 6 generally promotes inflammation while omega 3 heals. Hence the big market in fish oils and such.

The 100% pasture fed tastes like the milk I grew up with. I don't know much about the A2 milk.

Getting More Omega-3 Fatty Acids from Milk

Another thing that no one mentions much is that at least in the US, milk is required to have a certain amount of vitamin A. When they remove fat for the reduced fat versions it also removes vitamin A, so it needs to be replaced with synthetic vitamin A.

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Vitamin A from the Mount Sinai health library   People who have liver disease or diabetes should not take vitamin A supplements without their doctor's supervision.

Smokers and people who drink heavy amounts of alcohol should not take beta-carotene supplements.

Both vitamin A and beta-carotene may increase triglycerides, which are fats in the blood. They may even increase the risk of death from heart disease, particularly in smokers.

 

I lived on a farm community and did many shifts in the dairy. You are right there is nothing better than pasture fed fresh milk.

Edited January 3, 2023 by Wheatwacked

[Liquid lunch]

Hi @nightshimmer, could be it was the biology in raw milk that was helping you digest the A1 protein? Celiacs are deficient in bifido.

There is so much wrong with ‘normal milk’ I’m not sure where to begin. Homogenised milk contains nano lipids that can get past the blood brain barrier, taking any horrors that the cows have been treated with along for the ride.

Pasteurisation destroys the anandamide, which is the main reason I drink it. You will also be deficient in anandamide if you have celiac.

And they feed them gm maize resistant to the herbicide they’re smothered in, which messes up the omega ratios, someone should have a word with these people. They’ve taken something highly nutritious with all sorts of medicinal properties, and made it really quite dangerous to drink.