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Aphthous Ulcers

Michi8

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Hi there,

Just wondering how quickly aphthous ulcers show up after ingesting gluten? I'm still consuming gluten until I have my biopsy at the end of next month. I've pretty much always had some problem with mouth ulcers and canker sores (they come and go), but hadn't paid much attention to what triggers them, just that they are a common symptom of celiac, and one of many symptoms I have.

Today, within seconds of taking a bite of my sandwich, I developed an ulcer on my left cheek and have a sensation of a canker sore or two developing on my tongue. Do these sore spots usually show up this quickly when reacting to wheat products, or could it be something else causing this?

Michelle

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So an hour after eating, I ended up feeling absolutely exhausted (a nap didn't help) and irritable...and had absolutely no patience for my kids. Now I've got an upset stomache. Is this a typical gluten reaction?

Michelle

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sounds like it could be a gluten reaction, it could also be another food intolerance creeping in... keeping a detailed food journal might be helpful at this point and maybe you will be able to see a pattern emerge, it could be something else, but being that it occured after eating, it's more likely a food related thing.

other common food intolerances besides gluten are corn, rice, soy, dairy/casein, lectins, nightshades... (well it can go on and on)... usually after we go gluten-free, other food intolerances begin to emerge.

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sounds like it could be a gluten reaction, it could also be another food intolerance creeping in... keeping a detailed food journal might be helpful at this point and maybe you will be able to see a pattern emerge, it could be something else, but being that it occured after eating, it's more likely a food related thing.

other common food intolerances besides gluten are corn, rice, soy, dairy/casein, lectins, nightshades... (well it can go on and on)... usually after we go gluten-free, other food intolerances begin to emerge.

A food log is a good idea. :) I'm suspecting the bread, because it was whole wheat with wheat berries (and the mouth ulcer happened immediately)...the filling was tuna salad that I prepared myself and know the ingredients.

Michelle

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could be... did you ever try going gluten-free at all? or are you just waiting on biopsy? I hope that regardless of the results of your biopsy you will try the diet and see if you have a positive dietary response to it. Have you had bloodwork done yet? If so what were the results?

My mom isn't gluten-free and she gets those mouth ulcers and canker sores... don't know if it's related to that or if it's viral.

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I'm going to go gluten free after the biopsy, regardless of results. :) My blood work was negative (and so were my son's) but there are too many symptoms, and a long family history of GI issues to just let it go...when I saw the GI, my history & symptoms were enough to recommend the gastroscopy and biopsy.

Michelle

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