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Lovelycherry

Fingerprints And Celiac Disease/gluten Intolerance

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Hi all,

I recently came to the conclusion that I am gluten intolerant.

I have very minor issues.. my hair was falling out in small amounts but it was enought that over a few years it would be an issue, very tough skin on my feet, blepheritis which I believe is caused by a gluten intolerance.

I also have the tell tale fingerprints with the white lines across them.

So now I am on the road to ridding my life of all gluten in any form.

My question is how long did it take for the white lines on your fingerprints to disappear?

does any one have any more information on the white lines in the fingerprints?

Thanks I was not sure where to put this post so if it gets moved I understand.


"One man's food is another mans poison" Dr. D

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I am pretty new to this, too. But I have not read anything to do with fingerprints. Can you explain this further, I am very intrigued.

Thanks,

Liz


Be yourself, everyone else is taken.

Oscar Wilde

Gluten free November 2007

IgA Deficient, Neg Bloodwork, Double DQ2 Positive

Dietary and Genetic Diagnosis June 2, 2008

Soy free Jan 09

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Or you mean moons on the nails?

nora


gluten-free since may 06 after neg. biopsy symptoms went away and DH symptoms which I had since 03 got gradually better.

daughter officially diagnosed celiac and casein intolerant.

non-DQ2 or DQ8. Maybe DQ1? Updated: Yes, double DQ5

Hypothyroid since 2000, thyroxine first started to work well 06 on a low-carb and gluten-free diet

Lost 20 kg after going gluten-free and weighing 53 kg now. neg. biopsy for DH. Found out afterwards from this forum that it should have been taken during an outbreak but it was taken two weeks after. vitaminD was 57 nmol/l in may08)

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I'm not sure if this is what Lovelycherry is talking about, but in a nutrition class we learned that often Celiac patients can have fingerprint atrophy. On one of my exams we even had a case study involving a boy with no fingerprints who was Celiac! haha

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This is pretty interesting. I've been fingerprinted several times (I'm a teacher and adoptive parent) and it's always been a struggle to get good prints. I just had them done a couple months ago and they got rejected because the lady couldn't get a good print. I have to go in again now. I've been gluten-free for quite a while now, but still no good fingerprints.


Liz

Started Specific Carbohydrate Diet on 8-16-09 because son was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis and want to give him moral support.

Diagnosed with Minimal Change Nephrotic Syndrome in 2003. Discovered that going completely gluten-free put me in remission.

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This is pretty interesting. I've been fingerprinted several times (I'm a teacher and adoptive parent) and it's always been a struggle to get good prints. I just had them done a couple months ago and they got rejected because the lady couldn't get a good print. I have to go in again now. I've been gluten-free for quite a while now, but still no good fingerprints.

This happened to me, too. I used to work for the school district, and had to be fingerprinted as part of my background check. I had to do the fingerprint part twice, since they couldn't get a good reading the first time.

I had no idea there could be some kind of link.


Patti

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That IS really interesting. At my previous job, we had a fingerprint imaging based time clock. Since I was a manager, I very rarely had to use it, unless I was putting new employees in. But when I first went to create an image for me, it was very hard to get a consistent print that would take. When it finally saved my image, I would often have difficulty getting the reader to confirm my print againt the one on file. I just figured the scanner was dirty or something. Wonder if that was the beginning?? Who would ever have thought!

I'm still a little unclear about the white lines though??


Be yourself, everyone else is taken.

Oscar Wilde

Gluten free November 2007

IgA Deficient, Neg Bloodwork, Double DQ2 Positive

Dietary and Genetic Diagnosis June 2, 2008

Soy free Jan 09

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My gosh I thought I was the only one as I never had any one else mention this. If I come into skin contact with gluten the lines in my finger prints and my palms turn white. It is a good indicator for me when I am working with some of my glass and paint supplies. I will also have this effect for a day or two if I happen to use a powdered glove that is a gluten source powder. And no it is not residue as it doesn't go away with washing. I also get this from lotions and such that have gluten ingredients.


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Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002

Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis

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Here is a link that may help.

White lines that go vertical across the finger, are indicitive of gluten intolerance, lectin sensitivity and the health of your intestines.

This is mentioned in Peter D'Adamos new book The Genotype Diet.

I was shocked to find I have these white lines.

It is the last thing mentioned in the video so be patient and watch the whole thing or skip ahead a bit.

I have been following Peter D'adamo's work for a long time.

I Genotyped as a Warrior.

thanks, hope I led someone to recovery today.


"One man's food is another mans poison" Dr. D

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I've never noticed the white lines, and haven't been officially fingerprinted. But last year I bought a new computer that has a computer sensor for login, and it has the hardest time reading my fingerprints. Sometimes I run multiple fingers multiple times before it detects. I'm about to ask my DH to put his fingerprint on the thing. He has the same brand of computer and runs his print once and it always detects.bv


4/2007 Positive IGA, TTG Enterolab results, with severe malabsorption: Two DQ2 celiac genes--highest possible risk.

gluten-free since 4/22/07; SF since 7/07; 3/08 & 7/08 high sugar levels in stool (i.e. cannot break down carbs) digestive enzymes for carbs didn't help; 7/18/08 started SCD as prescribed by my physician (MD).

10/2000 dx LYME disease; 2008 clinical dx CELIAC; Other: hypothyroid, allergies, dupuytrens, high mercury levels

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I have a computer like this too and it does this too....


gluten-free since may 06 after neg. biopsy symptoms went away and DH symptoms which I had since 03 got gradually better.

daughter officially diagnosed celiac and casein intolerant.

non-DQ2 or DQ8. Maybe DQ1? Updated: Yes, double DQ5

Hypothyroid since 2000, thyroxine first started to work well 06 on a low-carb and gluten-free diet

Lost 20 kg after going gluten-free and weighing 53 kg now. neg. biopsy for DH. Found out afterwards from this forum that it should have been taken during an outbreak but it was taken two weeks after. vitaminD was 57 nmol/l in may08)

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I just watched the video and oh my goodness I not only have gobs of white lines but a number of fingers don't even seem to have a print left on them


Patrice

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Glad you liked it. I just got a very strange PM from someone who did not like my style of writing.

So Tah, tah.. I only posted like 4-5 times on this board. I guess I am done here.


"One man's food is another mans poison" Dr. D

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Interesting. I was fingerprinted for a job about 35 years ago and the prints were processed without a problem. I was fingerprinted again about 2 years ago, about a year after being diagnosed with celiac disease, and my prints were rejected twice by the FBI as being unreadable. I thought it was just "wear and tear" but this is making me wonder whether it is connected with celiac disease.


Joe B, Connecticut

Diagnosed April, 2005

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Funny, a couple weeks ago, I was rinsing my earrings in peroxide, which I have always done. 10 minutes later, I noticed that my right thumb had white lines across it. This was very pronounced, got my attention. Funny to be reading this after having this happen. Learn something everyday! I have never had my fingerprints taken, so I may never have known this without having read it.

Thanks LovelyCherry! And yes, do not leave just because one person sent you a weird em, one person does not make an entire forum. ;)


Deb

Long Island, NY

Double DQ1, subtype 6

We urge all doctors to take time to listen to your patients.. don't "isolate" symptoms but look at the whole spectrum. If a patient tells you s/he feels as if s/he's falling apart and "nothing seems to be working properly", chances are s/he's right!

"The calm river of your life approaches the rocky chute of the rapids - flow on through. You are the same water. The rocks cannot hurt you. Remember, now and then, that you are the water and not the boat. Flow on!

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This is pretty interesting. I've been fingerprinted several times (I'm a teacher and adoptive parent) and it's always been a struggle to get good prints. I just had them done a couple months ago and they got rejected because the lady couldn't get a good print. I have to go in again now. I've been gluten-free for quite a while now, but still no good fingerprints.

I was reading Dr. D'Adamo's book on Geno Type Diet and took my fingerprints as indicated and I was very surprised to find all these little white lines where my prints should be. It was the explanation that these indicate a digestive problem and glucose sensitivity that let me to pursue furthur testing at EnteroLab. And yes, I tested glucose and casein sensitive and am genetically predisposed to gluten sensitivilty. It seems that both my parents had it too. Now that I look back, I can see where gluten would have been a factor in their ailments.

I asked a police officer to look at my prints the other day and he had never seen anything like it. Apparently, it takes two years being gluten-free before the fingerprints are returned to normal.

I find this all very fascinating. I also have vertical ridges on my fingernails and have for a very long time. I suspect that this is related to gluten also. Time will tell...I am hoping to get my fingerprints and smooth nails back and of course heal my innards. The test showed that I have severe malabsorbtion and they suggested testing again in a year after going gluten-free.

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Wow, I always thought the white lines were from the skin drying out, using harsh solvents, guitar playing, and whatnot. And now that this topic came up, I took a good look and most of the lines are gone! Amazing.

I also have vertical ridges on my fingernails and have for a very long time. I suspect that this is related to gluten also.

Yes, ridges on the fingernails is related, but basically due to nutrient deficiency. Vitamin B12 in particular. Other effect of B12 deficiency on the nails are diminished half moons, specks, and thin/brittle nails.


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Here is a link that may help.

White lines that go vertical across the finger, are indicitive of gluten intolerance, lectin sensitivity and the health of your intestines.

This is mentioned in Peter D'Adamos new book The Genotype Diet.

I was shocked to find I have these white lines.

It is the last thing mentioned in the video so be patient and watch the whole thing or skip ahead a bit.

I have been following Peter D'adamo's work for a long time.

I Genotyped as a Warrior.

thanks, hope I led someone to recovery today.

Very interesting! I am going to check my relatives/friends and anyone that is sick.


Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

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I work in a hospital and constantly have trouble getting my fingerprint to read for med access. I usually have to get someone else to do it for me. I never attributed this to Celiac!


Tamara, mom to 4 gluten & casein free kiddos!

Age 11 - Psoriasis

Age 8- dx'd Celiac March 2005

Age 6- gluten-free/cf, allergy related seizures

Age 4 - reflux, resolved with gluten-free/cf

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This is a really interesting subject. They did fingerprint me for my current job. They did it over a couple of times. It does make you wonder. I have to check out the u tube. I have had white lines on my hands, but don't see any at the moment.

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Thanks for sharing all this , it is very interesting to me!

I'll have to take my fingerprints! I did it for a job many moons ago & they did have a problem & I had to do it over a few times but I had no idea back then I had celiac......

mamaw

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Amazing topic. I've always thought my fingerprints looked a bit worn, and they still do look worn down. I have never been fingerprinted. I'll have to find an ink pad and see what happens.

Cathy

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My laptop has rejectoed my prints now the last month or so, so I have to type in the password each time now. One finger sometimes works.

I now turned up my hands and studied them, and sure enough my fingers are almost blank except for the one finger (middel finger ) that sometimes gets accepted.

Something has happened.

I wonder what happened, I amn gluten-free but hubby is not and he cuts his bread on the cutting board in the kitchen and trys to stick to his area. Maybe I am constantly getting glutened by the gluten dust. I will also change vaccum bag as I know I cannot have andy breadcrumbs in a vaccum cleaner and he might have tried to vaccum bread crumbs.

I cannot find glute-free bread in the shops here, all have wheat starch that the other celiacs eat, and milk and I cannot have traces of milk. I avoid bread alltogether, but getting gluten-free bread for him too might eliminate all the gluten breadcrumbs in the kitchen, and the wheat starch gluten-free crumbs are much less mean for me......just thinking loud.

nora


gluten-free since may 06 after neg. biopsy symptoms went away and DH symptoms which I had since 03 got gradually better.

daughter officially diagnosed celiac and casein intolerant.

non-DQ2 or DQ8. Maybe DQ1? Updated: Yes, double DQ5

Hypothyroid since 2000, thyroxine first started to work well 06 on a low-carb and gluten-free diet

Lost 20 kg after going gluten-free and weighing 53 kg now. neg. biopsy for DH. Found out afterwards from this forum that it should have been taken during an outbreak but it was taken two weeks after. vitaminD was 57 nmol/l in may08)

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I cannot find glute-free bread in the shops here, all have wheat starch that the other celiacs eat

I do not think that most celiac's can have wheat starch, I know I wouldn't trust it! In this website, it states: http://www.nowheat.com/grfx/nowheat/primer/controvl.htm

Wheat starch

Some countries use wheat starch that has had its gluten content reduced in foods labeled as "gluten-free." Although in laboratories it is possible to remove gluten, most plants are not as thorough as lab scientists are, and some gluten gets through, so it is thought that even gluten-reduced wheat starch is not safe. Certainly wheat starch in the United States and Canada is not safe as it is not gluten-reduced.

I am going to have to try doing my own fingerprints now! Inquiring minds need to know!!!!!


Deb

Long Island, NY

Double DQ1, subtype 6

We urge all doctors to take time to listen to your patients.. don't "isolate" symptoms but look at the whole spectrum. If a patient tells you s/he feels as if s/he's falling apart and "nothing seems to be working properly", chances are s/he's right!

"The calm river of your life approaches the rocky chute of the rapids - flow on through. You are the same water. The rocks cannot hurt you. Remember, now and then, that you are the water and not the boat. Flow on!

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