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I just want to thank each and every person that shares their knowledge and personal experiences on these boards. I always find comfort here. This is such a lonely thing, and I honestly don't know how I am going to manage this for the rest of my life. I posted here last week that all of my tests came back negative, but that my NP said that it didn't mean I wasn't gluten intolerant. I called my primary doctor to give her the news, and she kinda, sorta suggested that this is hypochondriasis, and is continually trying to put me on Zoloft. I have no desire or need to alter my brain chemistry. Anyway, my conversation with her got me questioning my condition again, so I did it - I ate a hard roll. Three days later every darn symptom returned - the intense stomach pain, anxiety, chills, night sweats - so I guess I have my answer. I glutened myself. Anyway, I returned here and with just a few searches, had all of the symptoms, including the delayed reaction confirmed. I hope that I get better soon, anyone have any info on how long it takes to un-gluten? Again, thank you all.

Karen, Seattle, WA


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Hi Karen,

Hey, next time go for something a little more decadent instead of a hard roll. :P

Recover time is different for everyone. Try some stomach settling things like bananas, rice, apple sauce and tea. Imodium helps with the diarrhea. But, generally it just has to run it's course.

Hope you feel better soon.

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I just want to thank each and every person that shares their knowledge and personal experiences on these boards. I always find comfort here. This is such a lonely thing, and I honestly don't know how I am going to manage this for the rest of my life. I posted here last week that all of my tests came back negative, but that my NP said that it didn't mean I wasn't gluten intolerant. I called my primary doctor to give her the news, and she kinda, sorta suggested that this is hypochondriasis, and is continually trying to put me on Zoloft. I have no desire or need to alter my brain chemistry. Anyway, my conversation with her got me questioning my condition again, so I did it - I ate a hard roll. Three days later every darn symptom returned - the intense stomach pain, anxiety, chills, night sweats - so I guess I have my answer. I glutened myself. Anyway, I returned here and with just a few searches, had all of the symptoms, including the delayed reaction confirmed. I hope that I get better soon, anyone have any info on how long it takes to un-gluten? Again, thank you all.

Karen, Seattle, WA

Good luck with your healing. You should read the book the Dangerous Grains. Apparently gluten isn't really that good for anyone plus a lot of people get gluten intolerance exhibiting in other ways.

It can take only 2 weeks to 6 months or more to notice the good effect of an anti gluten diet. Though 2 months is the usual amount of time before you notice real benefit.

Yolo

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Karen - I know it's a bit of a drive for you, but I wanted to invite you to our gluten-free support group. It's at Marlene's Market in Federal Way on Monday February 18 at 7:00. We are going to have some great samples to try, and next month we may even have a dietician come and speak. Here's the info on Marlene's:

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I know what you mean about celiac isolating you. It is nice to be in a group (or on a forum) where others are dealing with the same issues.

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Hi. I'm sorry you are having a tough time- it can be so incredibly frustrating! I am almost 2 years gluten-free and it has only been since last week that my tTg number FINALLY is in the normal range. (High normal, but normal) During all this time I have been gluten, soy, corn, dairy, nightshade and egg free. (Yes, I've eaten rocks...) And I STILL have mysterious glutenings even with a gluten-free house and never eating out! BUT! The good news is that you will feel better and you will have more good days than bad and there is no pricetag for that. Also, I can now eat moderate amounts of dairy; I've put corn back in and some nightshades (tomatoes) and egg-whites are no problem, not sure about yolks yet. So it won't be too restrictive forever. (except for the evil gluten)

I wish you good luck and know that others here are rooting for you and know what you are going through.

Take heart,

lisa

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Hi. I'm sorry you are having a tough time- it can be so incredibly frustrating! I am almost 2 years gluten-free and it has only been since last week that my tTg number FINALLY is in the normal range. (High normal, but normal) During all this time I have been gluten, soy, corn, dairy, nightshade and egg free. (Yes, I've eaten rocks...) And I STILL have mysterious glutenings even with a gluten-free house and never eating out! BUT! The good news is that you will feel better and you will have more good days than bad and there is no pricetag for that. Also, I can now eat moderate amounts of dairy; I've put corn back in and some nightshades (tomatoes) and egg-whites are no problem, not sure about yolks yet. So it won't be too restrictive forever. (except for the evil gluten)

I wish you good luck and know that others here are rooting for you and know what you are going through.

Take heart,

lisa

Egg yolks are good, that's where all the vitamins are.

Yeah, next time have cake! Screw the hard roll.

But seriously, try to take extra vitamins and drink lots of mint tea, but this too shall pass. It will probably take about as long as it did when you quit gluten to feel better, maybe less. And good for you, not listening to your doctor's BAD advice!

I also have some lovely glutenfree cake ideas.

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[ Marlene's Market in Federal Way on Monday February 18 at 7:00

Thanks Colleen,

It is a bit far for a Monday night in possibly bad weather. Is there anywhere I can keep an eye on your group's gatherings, and maybe pick one in the Spring?

K.


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Thanks Colleen,

It is a bit far for a Monday night in possibly bad weather. Is there anywhere I can keep an eye on your group's gatherings, and maybe pick one in the Spring?

K.

Yeah, I figured you wouldn't want to come odown this far, but I figured I'd mention it anyway. We are just starting up our group (we've had 2 meetings :) ), so we don't have a website yet. I can definitely let you know when we have one up. We are meeting the third Monday of the month at Marlene's at 7:00.

Here are some links to other support groups in the area. Maybe you can find one closer to home.

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