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Could It Be Kidney Problems?


LuvMoosic4life

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I dunno if this is gluten related, but this all started when I went gluten-free.

I've been sick for a couple of days on antibiotics for pharyngitis. A few days before I got sick, I noticed I was retaining a lot of water, just feeling bloated all over and even put on about 10 IBS. SInce I've been gluten-free I also have been having lower back pain/aching.

TOday I'm starting to feel a little better, but still retaining a ton of water. I decided to take a bath, thinking it may help and I would sweat a little bit. well, about a few minutes soaking in the bath I started sweating, my heart started to beat really fast and I just felt sick. I sat up and my ears felt like they were plugging up (this usually happens before I pass out). After taking some deep breaths I slowly stood up and just felt extremely light headed and my legs/arms and hands were shaky and weak. I pretty much just wrapped my self in a towel and layed down on my bed until I could pull myself together. It's kinda scary having that feeling when you're living alone! I've had anemia in the past and passed out from that, so I'm just tarrified I may pass out and no one will be here to wake me up :( . Now I'm having the lower back aching again...

has this happened to anyone?? or is this b/c of the antibiotic??

It just seems like in general lately my body has a hard time "cleansing" itself. Its like stuff sits in me for days. If I drink coffee ( on a rare occasion) I can smell it in my urine for hours afterwards, just a few sips of alcohol make fatigued and light headed and leave me tired for a couple days after...I was never like that...


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Ouch! Have you informed your doctor? It really could be the antibiotics.

If you think its really the kidneys also getting into the act (which they could since they are organs of elimination) consider getting some dandelion root, marshmallow root and uva ursi and start taking them pronto.

Hopefully its just an inflammation rather than an infection. This definitely has happened to me. My kidneys are quite reactive to CC'ing. Which is why I am so adamant about taking probiotics and digestive enzymes like bromelain/papain and pancreatin to help stop the devastating reaction to CCin its tracks. Ditto with nattokinase on an empty stomach to heal the villi in the intestines plus it strengthens/heals the kidney nephrons too.

However you may also quite allergic to antibiotics--as I am also. So that should be determined. For me I only take them in an emergency.

But the dandelion root etc. will help with water retention issues, the marshmallow root will soothe the inflammation wherever it is, and the uva ursi will make your urinary tract inhospitable to infection. Taking magnesium and/or calcium citrate also helps create a less hospitable environment for infection. The magnesium should help unplug you--just don't overdo since it will cause D otherwise.

Bea

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Check out this thread. It's suspicious that you feel so much worse on antibiotics and when you drink alcohol.

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are you diabetic?

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NOPE.

ive Rookie

It's possible that on gluten-free diet your villi started healing and therefore antibiotic is absorbed now better than before and that is why you might have more side effects from it. That's what happened to me, I occassionally have to take antibiotic and I took it this September (not being on gluten-free diet) and did not experience any side effects. However, I had to take it this April (about 2 months on gluten-free diet) and I definitely had some weird side effects from it - loss of balance, light-headedness, also I suspect some kidney and liver symptoms as well.

Do you still take antibiotics? If you do, may be try to take the pressure off the kidneys for a while with your diet, e.g. eat less red meat and overall less proteins while you are on antibiotics. That's what doctors recommend for people with liver and / or kidney disease.

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It's possible that on gluten-free diet your villi started healing and therefore antibiotic is absorbed now better than before and that is why you might have more side effects from it. That's what happened to me, I occasionally have to take antibiotic and I took it this September (not being on gluten-free diet) and did not experience any side effects. However, I had to take it this April (about 2 months on gluten-free diet) and I definitely had some weird side effects from it - loss of balance, light-headedness, also I suspect some kidney and liver symptoms as well.

Do you still take antibiotics? If you do, may be try to take the pressure off the kidneys for a while with your diet, e.g. eat less red meat and overall less proteins while you are on antibiotics. That's what doctors recommend for people with liver and / or kidney disease.

This seems good advice, esp. about less (or no) red meat. When my kidneys acted up similarly the only proteins I could eat was sprouted sunflower seeds and nonfat organic yogurt. No meat, no fish, no nada. And especially no citrus or anything like that. Mainly I ate salads. And lots of plain cranberry juice with stevia and water. The Dandelion and Marshmallow Root really helped. So did the herbs Cleavers and Uva Ursi.

For me though I had to take a double dose of antibiotics since I had a UTI with some kidney inflammation and a single dose was not enough -- contracted down route I am convinced from the bronchitis I got previously after 2 days of D from CC earlier on.

However I am quite reactive to many antibiotics. The only ones I can take these days are synthetically created like cephalexin. I can't tolerate ones based on molds or yeast or sulfa. Something like this could possibly be happening to you too. Whatever it is it should be investigated. I suggest go from simple to gradually more complex. Let's hope your doctor is good.


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Ouch! Have you informed your doctor? It really could be the antibiotics.

If you think its really the kidneys also getting into the act (which they could since they are organs of elimination) consider getting some dandelion root, marshmallow root and uva ursi and start taking them pronto.

Hopefully its just an inflammation rather than an infection. This definitely has happened to me. My kidneys are quite reactive to CC'ing. Which is why I am so adamant about taking probiotics and digestive enzymes like bromelain/papain and pancreatin to help stop the devastating reaction to CCin its tracks. Ditto with nattokinase on an empty stomach to heal the villi in the intestines plus it strengthens/heals the kidney nephrons too.

However you may also quite allergic to antibiotics--as I am also. So that should be determined. For me I only take them in an emergency.

But the dandelion root etc. will help with water retention issues, the marshmallow root will soothe the inflammation wherever it is, and the uva ursi will make your urinary tract inhospitable to infection. Taking magnesium and/or calcium citrate also helps create a less hospitable environment for infection. The magnesium should help unplug you--just don't overdo since it will cause D otherwise.

You seem to know a whole lot about this. I have been gluten free for about a week...and I am searching in here for people that are urinating so much. or too much.

I have been retaining water prior to my gluten free diet..and now I can't stay out of the bath room. It is so odd.

I am trying lots of new products and like them. Today I am very sleepy. Lately I pee a great deal and I am sleepy...

I wonder if this gets better in time?

Nancy

Bea

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Hi Nancy,

All the peeing now you are off gluten could just be your body trying to get rid of excess toxins now that you are free of the offending gluten.

However you need to ask if there is pain or not. If so there may be some inflammation which if left could become the beginning of an infection. Again I suggest the marshmallow root and uva ursi and maybe some yarrow or cleavers just to clean out and soothe properly. Some swear by sugar free cranberry juice (sweetened with stevia is best--not an artificial sweetner!) with extra water to make sure no microbes can grow...Buchu can also help though its a bit spendy. Dandelion is a good addition too Besides helping the kidneys it also removes toxins from the liver, before they get to the kidneys so its a very good preventive. However it will make it so you pee more -- but that may be just what you need to do for now to get rid of whatever is bothering you. The other good thing with Dandelion root is that it helps restore the potassium lost in all that peeing.

Other question, what is it that you are eating these days? Spicy foods for now should be on your off list. Citrus and pineapple I found for instance are not well tolerated with a irritated urinary tract. Lots of meat too (or maybe even any) may not be the right thing until you heal the irritation. Heavy duty carbs may also exacerbating irritation for now. So easy does it even if its gluten free. Use whole grains over ground up flour. Vegetables are even better--including roots and squashes as well as greens.

And again, are you avoiding coffee and other caffeine I hope? Caffeine is very irritating to the kidneys even in small amounts, I joke you not. I can't even handle much in the way of chocolate, green tea or yerba mate.

And sugar is completely out until you heal. If this becomes a cycle consider avoiding sugar etc. as much as possible. Thank the heavens for stevia I say! combined with a small amount of applesauce it avoids the bitter taste in baked goods. For me I permanently stay off sugar since it also exacerbates my candida overgrowth. Sugar is extremely acidic.

Let me know if this helps. Am hoping you don't have to go the antibiotic route. However if you do, you do. If you keep getting worse, see a doc, and soon! Nevertheless the above remedies will still help ease the situation even if antibiotics are needed and they also will usually prevent a recurrence if used from time to time.

Bea

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