Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Could My Physician Have Been Mistaken?


Woolygimp

Recommended Posts

Woolygimp Contributor

I've got red blistery bumps along my chest/shoulders and across my back and chest. When I was young, prior to actually start having the IgA response caused by Celiac at 17, I never had a problem with acne or blisters and this skin problem only started appearing afterwards. I went in for a biopsy with a dermatologist to check whether or not it was DH. The doctor that took the biopsy was just out of med school and was relatively inexperienced; he said that that it wasn't DH and instead prescribed me acne vulgaris medication.

When I look online for pictures of DH, it's odd that all of them look differently. My condition definitely resembles some of the pictures shown.

I was then diagnosed with Celiac a few months after that and this 'acne' is one of my biggest gauges for when I accidentally gluten myself. If I don't make mistakes they slowly fade away, but when I make one they flare up and actually develop instead blisters with pus.

Is there any chance this dermatologist made the wrong diagnosis? Before even taking the biopsy he seemed pretty adamant about it being acne. I'm definitely Celiac, but if it's just acne I probably need to use medication...even though a strict diet definitely makes it fade away...slowly.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ohsotired Enthusiast

How was the biopsy done? Directly on top of one of the bumps, or immediately next to it?

It's my understanding that in order for the biopsy to be accurate, it needs to be taken from the area right next to it rather than right on top of it.

Woolygimp Contributor
How was the biopsy done? Directly on top of one of the bumps, or immediately next to it?

It's my understanding that in order for the biopsy to be accurate, it needs to be taken from the area right next to it rather than right on top of it.

I couldn't tell. This was several months back and he didn't tell me anything as far as the procedure and I didn't know to request a side biopsy.

This would be what it most closely resembles.

Open Original Shared Link

Ursa Major Collaborator

People have had their DH 'diagnosed' being all kinds of different skin problems. Of course the doctor could have been wrong, lots of dermatologists know next to nothing about DH (just like a lot of GI docs know precious little about celiac disease).

I believe that you have DH, period. And the only thing that keeps it in check is the gluten-free diet.

YoloGx Rookie

I have gotten acne even though I have celiac--and have had celiac since I was an infant. The acne for me comes from eating sugar, of which I am also very sensitive especially since I have to control the fungal/candida overgrowth pretty carefully since I have had too many antibiotics along the way since I wasn't told I had celiac until recently. If I am CC'd I often get canker sores amongst other symptoms, but not acne. Though eating gluten or getting CC does increase my tendency even more to having fungal overgrowth etc. I thus just avoid it now if its at all possible.

I fear that your doc may want to give you antibiotics to cure the acne. Honestly it doesn't work. What works is diet--avoiding sugar and bleached flours of whatever type, anything that goes to sugar quickly. Its good too sometimes to flush out your over burdened liver with things like dandelion root or silymarin caps and oregon grape root or yellow dock etc. Also eating lots of greens really helps and bulking agents like fresh ground up flax seed once or twice a day (1 tablespoon before being ground in a coffee grinder with 1/4 tsp apple pectin) mixed in plenty of water.

My understanding DH causes an itch as well as a bump etc. that doesn't easily go away even when one has gone off gluten. My mom's however always get worse when she goes off diet--plus the area around her eyes get red. It can take a year or two from what I hear to rid oneself of DH. Again I bet the dandelion and other liver cleansing herbs as well as lots of veggies etc. would help with that too. Just avoid ones like burdock that stimulate your immune system -- since that is the last thing we need given our over-active (auto) immune systems.

Bea

ravenwoodglass Mentor

It does sound like DH. If it is you will find that it does clear up gluten free. You should see a decrease in the amount of NEW lesions pretty soon although it can take up to 3 months for the ones you have presently to heal completely. However the antibodies will remain in the skin for up to 2 years before they can be completely gotten rid of by your body. During this time even the smallest amount of CC will reactivate them. My first couple years gluten-free the lesions were the first indication I got into something gluteny, but they were not as bad as when on the full gluten diet. I have now been gluten-free going on 6 years. My skin is clear and my hair has grown back but the slightest amount of gluten will still cause hair loss and a very minor DH breakout, usually one lesion the size of a pencil eraser instead of the oozing sores that would cover one side of my face or legs or arms or back. They also show up last now instead of first. The antibodies have cleared my skin and it now takes a few days for them to build up enough to cause a lesion.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Rogol72 replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    2. - Scott Adams replied to Butch68's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?

    3. - MogwaiStripe replied to Midwestern's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Gluten Issues and Vitamin D

    4. - Butch68 posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Guinness, can you drink it?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,218
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    tiffhorn14
    Newest Member
    tiffhorn14
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Rogol72
      Hey @Butch68, I also have dermatitis herpetiformis but don't suffer from it anymore. I used to drink Guinness too but I drink Cider now when out on social occasions. I assume you are in Ireland or the UK. If it's any good to you ... 9 White Deer based in Cork brew a range of gluten-free products including a gluten-free Stout. I'm not sure if they are certified though. https://www.9whitedeer.ie/ I haven't come across any certified gluten-free stouts this side of the pond.
    • Scott Adams
      This is a very common question, and the most important thing to know is that no, Guinness is not considered safe for individuals with coeliac disease. While it's fascinating to hear anecdotes from other coeliacs who can drink it without immediate issues, this is a risky exception rather than the rule. The core issue is that Guinness is brewed from barley, which contains gluten, and the standard brewing process does not remove the gluten protein to a level safe for coeliacs (below 20ppm). For someone like you who experiences dermatitis herpetiformis, the reaction is particularly significant. DH is triggered by gluten ingestion, even without immediate gastrointestinal symptoms. So, while you may not feel an instant stomach upset, drinking a gluten-containing beer like Guinness could very well provoke a flare-up of your skin condition days later. It would be a gamble with a potentially uncomfortable and long-lasting consequence. Fortunately, there are excellent, certified gluten-free stouts available now that can provide a safe and satisfying alternative without the risk.
    • MogwaiStripe
      Interestingly, this thought occurred to me last night. I did find that there are studies investigating whether vitamin D deficiency can actually trigger celiac disease.  Source: National Institutes of Health https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7231074/ 
    • Butch68
      Before being diagnosed coeliac I used to love Guinness. Being made from barley it should be something a coeliac shouldn’t drink. But taking to another coeliac and they can drink it with no ill effects and have heard of others who can drink it too.  is this everyone’s experience?  Can I drink it?  I get dermatitis herpetiformis and don’t get instant reactions to gluten so can’t try it to see for myself. 
    • trents
      NCGS does not cause damage to the small bowel villi so, if indeed you were not skimping on gluten when you had the antibody blood testing done, it is likely you have celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.